Beheaded American - more to the story?

[MattTheSkywalker]

as if you can get "the whole story" from CNN or self-conclusions

You're not too bright are ya? You're new here (or at least your handle is, so I will give you a break.

I never said CNN was the whole story. The other guy said I was 'wrong' and then cited a newspaper article as if to prove it.

Self-conclusion? It;s also known as 'thinking for yourself' and you should look into it.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Anyone ever wonder that perhaps Saddam had a purpose there?

Who else could keep all these bloodthirsty islamic religious savages under control. So does Bush really think he's gonna be the one who's gonna introduce democracy to a bunch of jackals? Good luck.

When the country turns into a poverty-stricken lawless jungle of rebels and mafias and murderers, ala palestine, or many latin american and african countries -- we'll be wishing Saddam was still there keeping them under control. Perhaps being a dictator WAS the only way to keep them all in line. Anyone ever think about that?

I said this before the war started. We were safer with Saddam contained by sanctions and no-fly zones. There's a reason animals at the zoo are in cages.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Berg was undoubtedly set up by Iraqi police.

Once they found out he was independent (read: unprotected), and jewish, he had no chance.

This was the Iraqi police all the way. The guys on the video might have been Iraqi police too. Who knows?

But if anyone from here to the White House thinks we are turning Iraq over to people who are going create a Constitutional democracy, they are sadly mistaken.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Berg was undoubtedly set up by Iraqi police.

Once they found out he was independent (read: unprotected), and jewish, he had no chance.

This was the Iraqi police all the way. The guys on the video might have been Iraqi police too. Who knows?

But if anyone from here to the White House thinks we are turning Iraq over to people who are going create a Constitutional democracy, they are sadly mistaken.

Not only sadly mistaken but entirely delusional. The US will have a considerable force in that region indefinately. It's just going to be a matter of how many satallite positions within that region we're going to have...

 

[mb2]

Sit. Roll over. Good dog.

Do you really think you're getting the whole story in the Tribune? The facts are probably accurate. But

Here is a completely plausible scenario:

Berg gets arrested by Iraqis. he tells them everything; I am an American, I am a contractor, I live here, I have no weapons, I am not a threat, I am trying to help rebuild etc.

Finally an Iraqi police commander that speaks to US interests told the US about Berg and he was detained by the military. it took 13 days out of bureaucratic fucking up.

Meanwhile, an Iraqi 'policeman' was talking to some people one night who said they wanted to kidnap an American. The Iraqi policeman said "I know where you'll find one, unarmed, could be Jewish."

BING. This guy gets caught up.

There is Iraqi complicity here. read between the lies.

The more I read the more I'm inclined to think there's more to the story myself. But I'll pose the unthinkable. He told other guests at the hotel where he stayed that he had been turned over to American military. He also told his family and friends stateside the same thing in emails and phone calls. Yet the military denies detaining him.

It also turns out, though it's rarely mentioned in the reporting, that he had been doing work at the notorious prison where prisoners were abused.

It seems just as possible as your scenario that our very own CIA turned him over to the butchers to divert attention from the emerging scandal about prisoner abuse.

I'd even consider that he was a hitman employed by the CIA.

 

[Dial_tone]

I say within 18 months we wind up abandoning Iraq like we did Somalia.

 

[the nature boy]

Updates on this story:

Seems like it might be confirmed that he was held by he was detained by US forces

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...324&call_pageid=968332188774&col=968705899037

and it seems as if Berg let Zacarias Moussaoui use his laptop

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/

I think his folks putting pressure on the state department to release their son signed his death warrant.

 

[avenirup]

I just saw on the news (channel 10 in philly) that he was friends with a 911 suspect!! The guy they caught just after 911 who wanted to take lessons on how to take off but not land. The news guy made it sound like he willingly was with the guys that killed him!!! This story is getting weird as shit!......

 

[Testosterone boy]

Wrong. The Iraqi police turned him over to the US Military which illegally detained him for 13 days and he was not released until his family sued the military. From this morning's Chicago Trib:

"A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Berg was in Iraq "of his own accord" and had been advised to leave Iraq but refused. The official refused to elaborate but promised more information later Wednesday.

According to his family, Berg, a small telecommunications business owner, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30. But he was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24.

Berg was turned over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days. His father, Michael, said his son wasn't allowed to make phone calls or contact a lawyer. On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated. His family last heard from him April 9 but it was unclear when and where he was abducted."

hmmmmmm

 

[the nature boy]

I just saw on the news (channel 10 in philly) that he was friends with a 911 suspect!! The guy they caught just after 911 who wanted to take lessons on how to take off but not land. The news guy made it sound like he willingly was with the guys that killed him!!! This story is getting weird as shit!......

Read my link above your post, they weren't friends. They did meet though. There's no way one of those dudes would befriend a jew.