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IS the ASSAULT on Mrs. YATES over?

bigguns7 said:

Didn't you just say you were pro death penalty? Do you think it's conceivable that the men who are fried in the chair do not wish to die? Isn't execution a concious decision to take life?

You should choose a side of the fence to stand on doc.
Are you kidding me? This is like a 1st grade argument you are making. "Fence" my ass. Can I make this any clearer for you? I am pro death penalty- that means I agree it is ok to put someone to death who has been found guilty of a crime for which crime the penalty is death.

Execution is a conscious decision made by our court system, a jury, a judge, etc... to take the life of a person who has been deemed deserving of it by virtue of (among other things) the conscious nature of his action(s) which resulted in his taking of another human life. The heinousness of the act is not in and of itself to merit the death penalty.

The "euthanasia" I was referring to was the killing of insane people which had been previously offered as the end-all solution to society's mental-health problems. In any event, the defense being advanced is that this woman's actions were not conscious or controllable due to her mental illness. I asked before and asked again, does anyone here believe that this woman truly understood what she was doing when she murdered her five children?
 
RyanH said:


Using graphics to arouse emotion is an effective but cheap way of arousing emotion....You have ignored the plea of millions of women across our country.

So you took a vote of these women? You think you should speak for women ? I think you have gall Ryan to think you speak for anyone but yourself.

Sorry, I know I am new here but this is really ridiculous, the woman is indeed sick, and I'm not sure if she should die, but also to blame her husband and society in general for what she did by her own decisions is galling to me.

If she takes responsibility for her actions, a life-sentance without parole, and lifelong psychiatric care would be the appropriate sentance. There is no way she should ever walk freely among society ever again.
 
thebabydoc said:
That's just great, your level of compassion and understanding is wonderful, especially from a woman who admits to suffering from a mental disorder. You should understand and recognize that mental disorders come in all shapes and sizes and are uncontrollable by the individual.
You had postpartum depression, NOT psychosis. You're right, postpartum depression does not make you kill your children. Psychosis can. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Bullshit. There's big, big difference between suffering from an EATING disorder and murdering your innocent children.

Not to mention the fact that I do not blame society or my significant other for my eating disorder - I accept responsibility for it and I am doing something about it. I believe that things are as uncontrollable as you allow them to be. I have gone through a bad period, and I have worked my ass off to regain control.

If a person can't control themselves, then that person should at least have the God-given sense to commit their crazy ass somewhere until a professional can drug a little sanity into them.

And you're right, I don't have any compassion and understanding for this woman. Had she called someone up and said, "You know, I'm feeling a little squirrely and I think my children are in danger," then I MIGHT have, because then those children MIGHT be around today.

What she did was inexcusable.

If your wife went psycho and murdered your children, can you honestly say that you would be OK with that? You would forgive her due to her "illness"?

Maybe you would, but I would not.

I think it's a cop out.

I don't care what kind of mental disorder she has - the fact remains that she did something inhuman and incomprehensible - she deserves everything she gets and more.

It's sad that people can actually put the rights of this woman before the rights of her defenseless children.

Mental illness does not make it OK to commit a crime.
 
thebabydoc said:
I asked before and asked again, does anyone here believe that this woman truly understood what she was doing when she murdered her five children?


Houston Chronicle- www.chron.com

This is today's top story:

"Yates knew her actions were illegal, he said, but she firmly believed that killing her children was the best thing to do."

"She faced a cruel dilemma," Resnick said. "If she did nothing, because the children were not being raised righteously, they would burn in hell. She could allow them to end up in hell burning for eternity or take their lives on Earth."


She knew exactly what she was doing. Now she is playing the "psycho" bit to convince the prosecurtors/jury to let her off.
 
Jimsbbc said:



Houston Chronicle- www.chron.com

This is today's top story:

"Yates knew her actions were illegal, he said, but she firmly believed that killing her children was the best thing to do."

"She faced a cruel dilemma," Resnick said. "If she did nothing, because the children were not being raised righteously, they would burn in hell. She could allow them to end up in hell burning for eternity or take their lives on Earth."


She knew exactly what she was doing. Now she is playing the "psycho" bit to convince the prosecurtors/jury to let her off.

If anything this article demonstrates the impact that Mr. Yates religious fanaticism had on Mrs. Yates, and the role it played in her destruction.
 
RyanH said:


If anything this article demonstrates the impact that Mr. Yates religious fanaticism had on Mrs. Yates, and the role it played in her destruction.

She is not the victim here. Those innocent children were the victims.
 
Ya see, Ryan is a liberal. Which means the victim of any given crime is the person who commited the crime.

Society and the government are responsible for every person's mental health and welfare.

Now, from a realistic point of view. The victims are no longer living, they were killed. Justice needs to be upheld. She is going to spend much of her life in jail or awaiting lethal injection.
 
RyanH said:


If anything this article demonstrates the impact that Mr. Yates religious fanaticism had on Mrs. Yates, and the role it played in her destruction.

religious fanaticism? are you fucking joking? i think there is a difference between someone who attends church and someone like david koresh. you seem so very anti-religion, if you believe there is no god, you better be right for your own sake.

so which one is it now ryan? schizophrenia? post partum depression? or religion? you are very good at changing your story on everything.
 
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