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To all the gun haters out there....

*The_West* said:
all im saying is guns are illegal here. we dont have people walking into colleges and schools pumping round after round into innocent people. you do. until your laws are changed it will continue to happen. anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themself


having a law against guns doesn't do shit to stop people who are going to kill someone(s). If they are willing to break the law by killing then gun laws don't mean shit. Gun laws will ONLY take guns out of the hands of people who could protect themselves NOT out of the hands of criminals.

If you thought/knew someone was carrying a gun concealed would you rob them? Now vise versa would you if you knew for a fact they didn't?

There will always be guns and criminals will break any law(s) to have them.
 
*The_West* said:
uh...yeah about 15 years ago. the ira are next to nothing these days.



yes, i accept that, what you need to accept is that something needs to be done to stop firearms, especially hanguns falling into the hands of 'not so responsible gun carriers' because until you do so, more people are going to think "fuck it" and walk round schools/colleges blowing innocent people away.
Well that's different than saying handguns are unnecessary like you said in your other post.
 
mwm5 said:
having a law against guns doesn't do shit to stop people who are going to kill someone(s). If they are willing to break the law by killing then gun laws don't mean shit. Gun laws will ONLY take guns out of the hands of people who could protect themselves NOT out of the hands of criminals.

If you thought/knew someone was carrying a gun concealed would you rob them? Now vise versa would you if you knew for a fact they didn't?

There will always be guns and criminals will break any law(s) to have them.
i cant see how everyone keeps arguing with my point-until something is done to stop handguns falling into the hands of the wrong people, you will continue to have these twisted individuals walk into schools/colleges and pump round after round into innocent people. yet everyone keeps ignoring this point and saying things like "banning guns will be taking them away from law abiding citizens" etc etc. law abiding citizens do not need fucking handguns! yes, ok, a rifle in the house maybe. but handguns?
 
*The_West* said:
i cant see how everyone keeps arguing with my point-until something is done to stop handguns falling into the hands of the wrong people, you will continue to have these twisted individuals walk into schools/colleges and pump round after round into innocent people. yet everyone keeps ignoring this point and saying things like "banning guns will be taking them away from law abiding citizens" etc etc. law abiding citizens do not need fucking handguns! yes, ok, a rifle in the house maybe. but handguns?
Who are you to dictate what people decide to protect themselves with(handguns,shotguns,rifle) Nobody is arguing the point that there needs to be tougher penalties against those who commit crimes with guns. I'm just going to go out on a limb here and guess that you might think a rifle and shotgun are the same thing judging by your statement above. You don't think a rifle round can travel further than a handgun round?
 
If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?

~ Prince Philip

Said amid calls to ban firearms after the 1996 UK Dunblane shooting.
 
crazyjoe said:
Who are you to dictate what people decide to protect themselves with(handguns,shotguns,rifle) Nobody is arguing the point that there needs to be tougher penalties against those who commit crimes with guns. I'm just going to go out on a limb here and guess that you might think a rifle and shotgun are the same thing judging by your statement above. You don't think a rifle round can travel further than a handgun round?
that is the most ridiculous statement i have heard in a long time, prevention is always better than the cure, you cant just give these psychos bigger sentences, you have to do something to stop hanguns falling into their hands in the first place!
of course i know the fucking difference between a shotgun and a rifle, just because guns are illegal for the general public to own here, it doesnt mean i have never used one. i have a friend who owns a farm and i have been out shooting with him before, he owns a couple of shottys and rifles. im not anti guns, i enjoy shooting. i just dont see any reason why hanguns should be available to the general public. it makes it far too easy for easily concealed weapons to fall into the wrong hands. you cant argue with that statement, its 100% true
 
*The_West* said:
i cant see how everyone keeps arguing with my point-until something is done to stop handguns falling into the hands of the wrong people, you will continue to have these twisted individuals walk into schools/colleges and pump round after round into innocent people. yet everyone keeps ignoring this point and saying things like "banning guns will be taking them away from law abiding citizens" etc etc. law abiding citizens do not need fucking handguns! yes, ok, a rifle in the house maybe. but handguns?


By your reasoning, law-abiding citizens do not need cars that go over 75 mph here. We should ban them too. How many more people are killed in vehicles than by handguns each year?
 
mountain muscle said:
By your reasoning, law-abiding citizens do not need cars that go over 75 mph here. We should ban them too. How many more people are killed in vehicles than by handguns each year?
why are people more interested in picking apart my posts than focussing on the fact that unless something is done to stop firearms, mainly handguns, falling into these peoples hands then more 'college/school massacres' will occur?
 
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