ALA.....6+ grams per day! Yeah baby!

[doubles1]

Guile why r u doing it at this dose does it seem necessary or are there any benefits for you to do this...


do you believe in the more the better principle or soemthin???


lataz, DD

 

[gUiLe]

Umm no I am not clueless, matter of fact I think you are lying through your fucking teeth. Yes I have taken high dosages for a few days, results = NONE. It's all in your head, even fonz said it's pointless to take above 3g/day. So shut the fuck up and die.

I think fina is getting to my head.

Bro I would step the fuck off with your stupid ass comments if
I were you. Look at that impressive amount of post's that you
have, oh and how many cycles have you done? Your a tool
plain and simple. If you couldn't afford to do it for a few days,
then too fucking bad for you! And where/when the fuck did
Fonz say it was pointless to take about 3g a day? Gotta love
this fucking board with so many idiots like SK The fact
is (Faggot) I am now looking better then EVER and I KNOW it's
mainly due to ALA at those doses. I am looking so much better
then I did last year with my Deca/Primo cycle! (Oh, SK, those
are steroids if you didn't know). You have been dismissed.
g

 

[gUiLe]

Umm no I am not clueless, matter of fact I think you are lying through your fucking teeth. Yes I have taken high dosages for a few days, results = NONE. It's all in your head, even fonz said it's pointless to take above 3g/day. So shut the fuck up and die.

I think fina is getting to my head.

Bro I would step the fuck off with your stupid ass comments if
I were you. Look at that impressive amount of post's that you
have, oh and how many cycles have you done? Your a tool
plain and simple. If you couldn't afford to do it for a few days,
then too fucking bad for you! And where/when the fuck did
Fonz say it was pointless to take above 3g a day? Gotta love
this fucking board with so many idiots like SK The fact
is (Faggot) I am now looking better then EVER and I KNOW it's
mainly due to ALA at those doses. I am looking so much better
then I did last year with my Deca/Primo cycle! (Oh, SK, those
are steroids if you didn't know). You have been dismissed.
g

 

[da big thinker]

you must be sweating like a bitch...not to mention that nasty stomach burn that comes along w/ ALA consumption...????well...in any case,keep us posted with your results...

 

[gUiLe]

Oh, and I am in my second cycle. Is that good or bad? I chose 2, it's my choice ... I don't know what it has to do with anything though.

With over 2800 post's, it tell's me you do WAY too much posting
and not enough reading. Maybe if you weren't too busy
running off at the mouth about how ALA is all hype, you would
get my point. I'm sure you won't though. It's all good. You
keep posting about how ALA sucks, and I'll keep getting leaner,
stronger, harder and bigger all with the help of ALA.
g

 

[gUiLe]

you must be sweating like a bitch...not to mention that nasty stomach burn that comes along w/ ALA consumption...????well...in any case,keep us posted with your results...

No, sweating is minimal. It seems to happen either in the gym,
or when I haven't taken in too many carbs on a given day.
As far as heartburn??...NEVER! Guess what? I have ulcers and
I STILL don't get the heartburn. I got it a total of two times since
I have been doing ALA. Just take it with food and plenty of
water and you will NEVER get heartburn. This is my last week
of dieting. I start some extra strength supps this weekend. I
plan on running ALA through the whole time. I will keep you
posted.
g

 

[rangerx83]

Re: Re: Re: interesting

I totally agree, its a little out of hand. I think people want it to work so bad that they fool themselves into thinking it works like AS.

I think I might start taking 100g of Creatine a day and see what happens.

I see. So taking 5 grams creatine 3X/day is okay but 6 grams of ALA, divided into 4 1500mg doses is not?


Taking 20+grams glutamine/day is okay but 6 grams of ALA is not?

What in your mind is the difference between the 3 items mentioned above?

rangerx83

 

[rangerx83]

WHY IS 6G THE MAGIC # BRO?

I'm the guy who suggested to gUiLe to do 6grams/day (especially on workout days) since that's what I've been doing and getting amazing results. I'm also the first guy to do mass quantities of ALA and wanted to share my results with everyone. I have no supplements to sell, or books to peddle. I simply did this because it was too good not to share.

I upped my intake to 6g/day because I'm bulking up. My rule was, and still is, to take 1200-1500mg ALA per average meal. I'm eating more meals, so the total per day goes up.

I was hoping that it would minimize my fat gain as I bulked. Guess what? Not only did I not gain any fat while increasing my weight by approx 8 lbs in the last month. I actually lost about a 1.5lb of fat!
At the start of bulking phase I was about 178lbs at 4.2%.
I am now 186.5lbs at 3.5%bf (on a good non-bloated day, otherwise my calipers say 3.8%bf)

6gms is not the magic #, what is the magic number is roughly 1200-1500mg ALA per meal. If you have 4 meals then that's 6gms/day if you have 3 it's 3.5g/day.

ALA's half life is incredibly short (30 minutes). This means that in half an hour after it gets in your blood stream, half of it has been eliminated. Half an hour later half of that has been eliminated.
So for example, if you have taken 1200mg, 30 minutes later there will be 600mg of ALA in your system. 30 minutes after that 300mg ALA left in your blood stream. 30 minutes after that there's only 150mg ALA left in your system., Assuming that the digestive process takes roughly 90 minutes to digest a carb/protein rich meal, there must be a minimum amount of ALA needed in your blood stream, so that ALA can do its insulin sensitivty thing. I've calculated that to be roughly 200mg.

If someone comes up with a modified ALA, which has a longer half life (for example 2hours) once could take only 300-600mg of that ALA and probably get the same effects as 1500 of shortlived ALA.

This is just my opinion. I got to this number thru trial and error, seeing which amounts give the best results.

I have done various androgens before, as well as the typical fat loss aids, and get predictable results when using those items alone. But, when I add ALA to that mix, I get the most amazing results I have ever gotten.

I've been juicing for 2 years, eventually doing test at the 2g+/week level, and never, ever looked as good as I do now with slightly less test (900mg/week) by just adding ALA. The increased ALA induced insulin sensitivity really helps you get the best/most out of juice. This is a lot liking adding insulin to your cycle, but without the bad sides, such as coma, death or worse getting fat.


--rangerx83

 

[rangerx83]

Actually Fonz did say that the difference between 2g and 3g is minimal and anything over 3g becomes to be pointless. Do a search and you will find it.

By the way, I guarantee you if you take 20Xenadrines 45mins before workout, your bench will go up by at least 20lbs on your next workout.


Tool.

Yes, but Fonz later retracted that statement. How much ALA you take for glucose metabolism optimization is highly dependent on your carbs intake, as well the intensity and frequency of your workouts.

And taking 4 1200mg doses ala is not like taking 20 Xenadrenes, which would kill you. It's more akin to taking 4 1000mg vitamin C's.

I'm 41 5'11''. I started using ALA together with clen+t3 in january. Went from 205lb @ 12%bf to 180 @ 7.4%bf in one month. My clen/t3 ran out, and I was actually expecting to see a erbounce effect, where I would gain back some of the weight I lost due to the clen/t3. Instead one month later *without* any clen or T3 (but still using ALA) I was 4.9%bf. I kept this up until I got to 4.2%bf, 178lbs. Stayed there for about a month.AT that point I started bulking up (begining of april) I am now 187 at 3.8%bf.

Beat that with a baseball bat...


rangerx83

 

[Bulldog_10]

Re: Re: Re: Re: interesting

I see. So taking 5 grams creatine 3X/day is okay but 6 grams of ALA, divided into 4 1500mg doses is not?


Taking 20+grams glutamine/day is okay but 6 grams of ALA is not?

What in your mind is the difference between the 3 items mentioned above?

rangerx83

Well, the other 3 (especially creatine) have been comprehensively studied and proven not to have adverse effects if taken in those doses. The label on creatine says to take 10g per serving (or whatever it is...Does the label on ALA say to take 6g per day?

You asked what the difference is between the three items listed...Well, for starters, they are TOTALLY different compounds. By your reasoning you would say that since you take 10g of creatine, you can also take 10g of winny right? What's the difference?