the EXECUTIONER....

[RyanH]

Re: You people are truly sad

So, you better make DAMN SURE you're right before
you take away somebodies freedom.
Freedom is the ESSENCE of a democratic society.
Violating this IMO opinion is the WORST CRIME
a person can make.

Have any of you heard of the female lab techician (I think in the Midwest) who was responsible for sending dozens of innocent men to prison and even some to their deaths because of her sloppiness and laziness in preparing accurate DNA records....Its been reported in the media recently.........Her actions completely support your point Fonz...

 

[RyanH]

First of all, it has nothing to do with what they have to live for. The arguement is that many (not all) do what they have to, to live. If you didn't make enough to feed your family, you would be more likely to steal regardless of the consequences.

What do you think many criminals here have to live for---an endless life in the ghetto---poverty---unemployment lines---lack of education...............? Many criminals here are also doing what he or she must do to survive. I fail to see the difference.....

 

[Superfoot]

The difference is that minimum wage comes out to about $20/day while ours is over $6/hr. It's also not customary to tip for services there so bartending or waitressing won't bring in near the money that it will in the US. We don't have it nearly as bad over here.

I agree that some americans are in a bad situation but when I say higher percentages, keep in mind the population. One floor may have 3 engineers and 1000 line workers. With that ratio, do you really think that everyone has the oportunity to advance, or get a degree unless they are very VERY intelligent?

 

[RyanH]

The difference is that minimum wage comes out to about $20/day while ours is over $6/hr. It's also not customary to tip for services there so bartending or waitressing won't bring in near the money that it will in the US. We don't have it nearly as bad over here.

I agree that some americans are in a bad situation but when I say higher percentages, keep in mind the population. One floor may have 3 engineers and 1000 line workers. With that ratio, do you really think that everyone has the oportunity to advance, or get a degree unless they are very VERY intelligent?

Your remarks still don't explain why the death penalty has never proven to be a deterrent here in the U.S. either.....

 

[Superfoot]

I don't think that it is a deterrent.

The people that get the death penalty here (if convicted correctly) are the sick crazies that kill children and blow up buildings. I'm guessing that they're too lost in that luntic mind to think things through properly, or perhaps even care.

What I'm saying is that you can't compare China and the U.S. on this because of so many underlying differences. Besides, a death penalty for a theif would never float here anyways and I don't think China spends nearly as much money on executions.

 

[Yellowbomber]

go to China man they'll fuck you alive

 

[Superfoot]

go to China man they'll fuck you alive

That's the best way to fuck.

 

[Milhouse]

I think that if the crime was brutal and if it is 100% proven that the person is guilty ie; caught on tape etc then no appeal take em outside and blow their fucking brains out on the sidewalk in front of everyone.

No it's not supposed to be a deterrant but some fuckers deserve to die period.


Here's a question for those who are against the death penalty.
If your sister, mother, wife, daughter, basically a female loved one was kidnapped brutally raped, murdered, and chopped up and heres the kicker...the fucker who gets caught videotaped the whole thing with him and his wife not only doing this to your loved one but others as well as his wife's sister,then how would you feel about the death penalty?

I ask this because whether you are for or against the death penalty the bottom line unless you or someone involved in your life has been a victim to some sick twisted fuck out there you really can't make a true judgement on this debate.

What I do think would be the best situation as far as whether to have the death penalty or not is give the victims family the choice. You would be surprised how many people would go either way with that decision.

 

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: the EXECUTIONER....

Your second point: DEAD WRONG. The appeals process is far more expensive than locking a prisoner up and throwing away the key...

Did I say anything about appeals? Please learn how to read. I said: "Keeping a criminal in jail for X years is more expensive than executing him."

Learn to read. Thanks.

Thus, what is the objective of the death penalty? Is it simply retribution---no other objective really seems to be met...

The objective of the death penalty is my third point on which you failed to comment - most likely due to the fact that it was dead on. $$

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Can't those murderers and rapists be prevented from committing those crimes once again by locking them up for the rest of their lives?

Yes, but it costs more. Our tax money pays for those wastes of humanity. Aren't you supposed to be the guy trying to protect the poor from taxes because they need their money? Oh wait... the taxes of the rich are the taxes that pay to house one slimeball for the rest of his life. Why would you care?

Further, what's the greater punishment----life in prison or sudden death?

Who says it's supposed to be punishment?

Life in prison is the greater punishment... FOR THE POOR S.O.B. WHO HAS TO PAY FOR IT - I.E. US.

-Warik