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curgeo
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right you are guiness.. I love drinking your name by the way..
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Guinness5.0
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The way to determine whether or not you should periodize if if you NEED to. In other words, if you are able to make week-to-week progress, you should do it as long as possible. I'm basing my assumption on your poundages - not to be an ass, but generally you'd be further along before periodized training is needed.
Think of periodization as a necessary evil, not a rite of passage
The longer you can keep weekly gains going, the better. Hit up madcow's site for a more detailed explanation.
Think of periodization as a necessary evil, not a rite of passage
The longer you can keep weekly gains going, the better. Hit up madcow's site for a more detailed explanation.
Guinness5.0
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Yeah, after a period of 'ramping' where you use liighter weights and build up to your current 5rm's. So in week four you'd wim for your current 5rm's, then bump 'em little by little.
Trust me bro - the fact that your bench is better than your deadlift means there's LOTS of room left. My deadlift absolutely sucks for my weight/experience, but if I tried to bench it I would probably be killed by it
Trust me bro - the fact that your bench is better than your deadlift means there's LOTS of room left. My deadlift absolutely sucks for my weight/experience, but if I tried to bench it I would probably be killed by it
Cynical Simian
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Good advice from Guinness as always. Madcow's site explains it in more detail, but basically the idea is that the goal is to get stronger, and to take the most direct route to that goal. It might be fun to periodize your training, but I really doubt it's optimal at this point; you almost certainly have a lot of room for progress on your dead and squat.
Do what allows you to make the fastest gains, which at this point is probably the SF 5x5. Believe me, if Guinness, blut wump or any of the other "veterans" on the board could still add 10 pounds to their squats twice a week as on the Rippetoe beginner program, that's what they'd be doing.
Do what allows you to make the fastest gains, which at this point is probably the SF 5x5. Believe me, if Guinness, blut wump or any of the other "veterans" on the board could still add 10 pounds to their squats twice a week as on the Rippetoe beginner program, that's what they'd be doing.
blut wump
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If you have made great gains then the program has worked for you despite what 'experts' might think of the high squat volume. As Curgeo says, anyone who is a champion at something has something extra in their genetics which takes them out of the norm. It's also likely that he's thinking in terms of three monster all-consuming leg workouts per week rather than the Heavy/Light/Medium that the 5x5 entails.
It could also be that he is just telling you what worked for him. Think, though, that he might have made his own progress faster when he started had he had better training knowledge. Most people get where they're going by personal trial and error.
Quite a few people here have done a run of the single-factor version after running the dual-factor. I ran the single-factor version myself for more than a month at the start of this year after having had a poor December and taking a Christmas break from workouts. It's a very efficient way to make progress until you feel the need to do more. I've come to enjoy the extra volume of the dual-factor version but it can be more work for the same gains if the single-factor will still give you progress.
It could also be that he is just telling you what worked for him. Think, though, that he might have made his own progress faster when he started had he had better training knowledge. Most people get where they're going by personal trial and error.
Quite a few people here have done a run of the single-factor version after running the dual-factor. I ran the single-factor version myself for more than a month at the start of this year after having had a poor December and taking a Christmas break from workouts. It's a very efficient way to make progress until you feel the need to do more. I've come to enjoy the extra volume of the dual-factor version but it can be more work for the same gains if the single-factor will still give you progress.
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