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STOP taking so much protein!!!
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http://inch-aweigh.com/foodtofat.html
This link has an article which talks about how the body processes food and it makes an interesting point that too much protein turns into sugars and fats.
The protein hype is out of hand from people selling the stuff. Sure it may help, but I don't recall Arnold ever taking in 600g/day of protein and he was in great shape. I believe no marketing hype unless I see the controlled scientific studies to back it up. Marketing of supplements in the US has no ethics, no science and very few facts. It is absolutely pathetic. At least Nike doesn't advertise that buying their running shoes will give you the ability of running 10 miles. If you believe everything the clown in GNC tells you, then you will end up buying the store. Come on you all are smarter than that.
The key to growing is busting your ass in the gym. I don't care what you eat or inject if you don't train like a freak and get adequate rest, then you will not grow. There are plenty of monkeys in every gym doing 2g of protein/lb. and they are not getting big.
This link has an article which talks about how the body processes food and it makes an interesting point that too much protein turns into sugars and fats.
The protein hype is out of hand from people selling the stuff. Sure it may help, but I don't recall Arnold ever taking in 600g/day of protein and he was in great shape. I believe no marketing hype unless I see the controlled scientific studies to back it up. Marketing of supplements in the US has no ethics, no science and very few facts. It is absolutely pathetic. At least Nike doesn't advertise that buying their running shoes will give you the ability of running 10 miles. If you believe everything the clown in GNC tells you, then you will end up buying the store. Come on you all are smarter than that.
The key to growing is busting your ass in the gym. I don't care what you eat or inject if you don't train like a freak and get adequate rest, then you will not grow. There are plenty of monkeys in every gym doing 2g of protein/lb. and they are not getting big.
In the three years i have been here this has got to be one of the best posts i have seen yet.
It's good to see people standing up against common perception and the magazine propaganda. You are the guys who think the world is round instead of flat!
I truely think the only time high protien ( above 1 gram per lbs of bodyweight ) is really useful or important is when your dieting. Lowering carbs and fats in your diet will cause muscle loss unless your protien intake can compensate for the cals loss to not only preserve muscle tissue but assist dieting by acting as a themogenic.
If your talking about strictly making gains in size and streangth well then a good carb intake with a sufficient protien intake will be enough. It always will depend on your genetics and metabolism on how much protien you should eat but ask any strongmen , powerlifter , even sumo wrestlers how they got to a size / bodyweight of over 300lbs in terms of nutrition and i can assure you it wasn't from a low carb / 600grams a day protein diet. Bodybuilders in precontest , ok , eat higher protien but you missing the boat if you think you need 400grams of protien a day to gain size and streangth.
You have to ask yourself WHO is promoting these huge protien intakes? Well in the past 8 years the only groups that really push that practice that i can remember is some paper known as FLEX magazine and that other one....um...well....what was the name...oh yeah...MUSCLEMAG!
Between every article that features a pro bodybuilder talking about how he got 400grams of protien a day from drinking NITRO-TECH is an ad for some protien powder or protien bar. After every article from some ghost writer on the Flex team talking about how you need over 300 grams of protien a day to gain a single lbs is an ad for a protien product by the guy who OWNS the magazine....what's his name..Joe Weider?
It never fails...if you don't beelive me see it for yourself. And i'm supposed to belive this biased drool which is a pathetic excuse for informative writing to be factual. I'm saying that the pro's are not eating high protien diets but if you eat a clean diet , train hard , and take a moderate amount of supplements the protien intake does not have to be ridiculous to gain all the size you want.
I will cite the famous line by the great Public Enemy: DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!
It's good to see people standing up against common perception and the magazine propaganda. You are the guys who think the world is round instead of flat!
I truely think the only time high protien ( above 1 gram per lbs of bodyweight ) is really useful or important is when your dieting. Lowering carbs and fats in your diet will cause muscle loss unless your protien intake can compensate for the cals loss to not only preserve muscle tissue but assist dieting by acting as a themogenic.
If your talking about strictly making gains in size and streangth well then a good carb intake with a sufficient protien intake will be enough. It always will depend on your genetics and metabolism on how much protien you should eat but ask any strongmen , powerlifter , even sumo wrestlers how they got to a size / bodyweight of over 300lbs in terms of nutrition and i can assure you it wasn't from a low carb / 600grams a day protein diet. Bodybuilders in precontest , ok , eat higher protien but you missing the boat if you think you need 400grams of protien a day to gain size and streangth.
You have to ask yourself WHO is promoting these huge protien intakes? Well in the past 8 years the only groups that really push that practice that i can remember is some paper known as FLEX magazine and that other one....um...well....what was the name...oh yeah...MUSCLEMAG!
Between every article that features a pro bodybuilder talking about how he got 400grams of protien a day from drinking NITRO-TECH is an ad for some protien powder or protien bar. After every article from some ghost writer on the Flex team talking about how you need over 300 grams of protien a day to gain a single lbs is an ad for a protien product by the guy who OWNS the magazine....what's his name..Joe Weider?
It never fails...if you don't beelive me see it for yourself. And i'm supposed to belive this biased drool which is a pathetic excuse for informative writing to be factual. I'm saying that the pro's are not eating high protien diets but if you eat a clean diet , train hard , and take a moderate amount of supplements the protien intake does not have to be ridiculous to gain all the size you want.
I will cite the famous line by the great Public Enemy: DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!
sk* said:
Yea but many believe that the limit that can be absorbed with ginger root is 2X bodyweight in LBS or so, but I made this thread to disagree with the norm.
-sk
Awesum post sk*. Good discussion that generated a lot of useful info!
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leancuisine
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why take chances? i'd rather over-consume that under-consume.
we work our asses off in the gym, and spend a bunch of money on gear, supplements and food. so to potentially hinder growth by shorting my body the protein that it may or may not require makes no sense.
i don't know about 300-400g a day, but 200-250 is what i take.
we work our asses off in the gym, and spend a bunch of money on gear, supplements and food. so to potentially hinder growth by shorting my body the protein that it may or may not require makes no sense.
i don't know about 300-400g a day, but 200-250 is what i take.
