Smith machine debate thread

[tay1506]

yeah ive never tryed dumbbell squats before never thought about it good idea though! but yeah i used to clean about 2 years ago but it hurts my fingers very bad because i crushed most of the bones in my right hand when i got pissed one day and just punched the wall tell i couldent move my hand but i would still do them just the fact there is no space at the ymca. Oh well theres a big gym opening up soon thats gona be rather cheap so i can wait tell then but thanks for the advice!

 

[AlwaysOn]

there is NO justification for using the smith machine in ANY excercise

just use barbells

However I do like to use some machines.

I mean how can you really do 600 lb. calf raises without a hack squat?

 

[blut wump]

I've seen it recommended for bent rows by someone whose recommendation I'd need a good reason to dispute.

 

[Madcow2]

I've seen it recommended for bent rows by someone whose recommendation I'd need a good reason to dispute.

How about it doesn't work as well?

 

[jc1908]

stablization is a huge factor in growth..IMO..because of rotator cuff injurys and tendinitous(sp) in both shoulders,i use the smitty for behind the neck presses only.(also because i have no spotter) one day i hope to do free bb BTN presses again. all other presses i can do free-with some pain,but it is manageable

 

[BiggT]

stablization is a huge factor in growth..IMO..because of rotator cuff injurys and tendinitous(sp) in both shoulders,i use the smitty for behind the neck presses only.(also because i have no spotter) one day i hope to do free bb BTN presses again. all other presses i can do free-with some pain,but it is manageable

Man, if a spotter is an issue, do them standing, they are even better for you in terms of functional strength anyway, if you get stuck, just drop on your back like a squat and re-rack. Seriously, though, I understand how people can find a machine 'less intimidating' but with injuries, I just don't see how they are a better choice. Back to the imtimidation thing, I have rarely seen the degree of injuries in high level lifters, whether it be weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman, highland games, track & field, football, etc who use olympic lifts and heavy coumpound free weight exercises that I do in the average people at a gym lifting. Guys always comment how benching hurt their elbow, then I suggest that maybe it isn't benching, but the 37 sets of triceps extensions they do with every peice of equipment in the gym. Ditto for shoulders.....guys either bench with their elbows flared out, or neglect overhead strength. How many 300-400lb benchers do you know? You can probably rattle off a list. Now, how many guys do you know who can push press 300lbs?

I have no idea what caused your injury, just trying to give some feedback regarding them with what I have seen. Seriously, man, if spotters are an issue, try the standing version and let me know what you think.