6 People beat Up Peeping Tom

[Austin316]

Wow you just refuse to believe that their is a universally accepted Idea of what is evil and whats not. Cold blood as opposed to retribution are two totally seperate entities. Have you ever studied criminal trajectories? And crime as a profession that evolves over time until caught and properly dealt with? Its also important to note that anyone over the age of 40 who still commits these crimes is INDEED one of those rare people that no matter what will always be fucked up, they do not FOLLOW in any way the rest of the criminals and the age crime curve presant in society. Have you ever studied the Ted Bundy case and how at one point in time he was just a porn obsessed man who all of a sudden needed more to fulfill his needs, then more after that. Thats how sex offenders work, they are obsessed people, and unless stopped often will keep evolving into worse criminals. The only reason that they possess a low rate of reoffence as a whole is because in prison they grew out of the typical crime stage of life, which is mid teens up until the early 30's. Anyone who still has problems after that point in time is HOPELESS and unrehabilitible. ALL crime studies will confirm this. If you don't think I DO NOT KNOW anything about how these people tick, what to look for and expect, then obviously you know nothing of me. The main problem is that liberal thinkers tend to adopt to Suttons philosophies of crime as being learned, and that it IS NOT inherent in an individual to simply be evil. You accuse me of being extreme and using extreme examples but sit there and say that we are going to start cutting up speeders and shoplifters? You act as if these kind of sub par criminals who reflect something most members in society do are in the same league of murderers, robbers, rapists, molesters, etc etc etc. If you think that then your logic is severly fucked up.

 

[Vash]

reword that sentance you make no sense? A man who WAS beaten loved ones? He is a victim? ummm yea whatever tard

Leave it to god loving double standardized shitfucks like you to start the name calling all over again.

I know your comprehension skills are at best those of a soggy towel, so I'll type this slow so its easier for you god lovers to read.

What about the man who had a tree limb shoved up his ass, and was also beaten for close to an hour? So his loved ones shouldn't be angry because you don't want the people who assaulted him to be punished. (You can't be this stupid)

 

[Austin316]

Ha I would bet Ill go much further then you, how old are you? 18 was it? High School educated at best? Hmmm well your sentance structure there sure made sense did it not?

Well, if their beloved family member didn't choose to go about terrorizing little children then he would be there with them and supporting them and teaching them how to be a good man wouldn't he? Not getting his rocks off to a child. If any family member of mine did that I would disown them on the spot, I would choose to never be associated with such a disgusting vile piece of filth. And I would turn them over to the law if I knew he planned on doing this, if after the fact I was told I would castrate him myself. Family member or not I will not defend anyone who is evil, when they chose to do something like this they chose to throw away any tie I had to them. They aren't fallout victims of an act of cold blood, they are perhaps only victims of being associated with that person who had vengeance and retribution handed to him. If he had not been who he is, an evil vile animal, then he would be just fine today now would he not?

 

[Austin316]

For the record SSS, I severely disagree with you yes, I think you have a very very flawed view and I cannot comprehend it. However if indeed you were able to deal with these actions, and stick to your beliefs, then I do hold respect for that. But I don't respect or even bother to listen to the opinion of children with a high school education and have not had to practice what they preech when the terrible happens. Its easy to say you think this way or that, so long as you never have to prove it.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Wow you just refuse to believe that their is a universally accepted Idea of what is evil and whats not.

I'm educated enough to know that there isn't a universality of evil. It doesn't take a lot of walking through history or different cultures and religions to see that. They all have a primary core of evil things, but not nearly as broad as you'd suggest. Murder is a clear example of a "universal", although not entirely.

Cold blood as opposed to retribution are two totally seperate entities.

Commiting a crime in retribution is still subject to the standards of appropriate applicability. Otherwise the actions of retribution are considered criminal and prosecuted as such. Killing someone in retribution for them stealing your luch isn't acceptible. Killing someone when you're in mortal danger is considered acceptible if there are no other reasonable recourses.

Have you ever studied criminal trajectories? And crime as a profession that evolves over time until caught and properly dealt with?

Yes, way back in the early 80s

Its also important to note that anyone over the age of 40 who still commits these crimes is INDEED one of those rare people that no matter what will always be fucked up, they do not FOLLOW in any way the rest of the criminals and the age crime curve presant in society.

This is another case of, those who were caught in these crimes. It leaves out the unknown quantity of those who are not or have not been caught. Statistics suck that way.

Have you ever studied the Ted Bundy case and how at one point in time he was just a porn obsessed man who all of a sudden needed more to fulfill his needs, then more after that.

So, are you suggesting that the extreme case of a Ted Bundy is a case study for ALL sex offenders?

Thats how sex offenders work, they are obsessed people, and unless stopped often will keep evolving into worse criminals.

Can you point me to the studies proving this?

The only reason that they possess a low rate of reoffence as a whole is because in prison they grew out of the typical crime stage of life, which is mid teens up until the early 30's. Anyone who still has problems after that point in time is HOPELESS and unrehabilitible. ALL crime studies will confirm this.

How does that relate to this? Are you saying that this man has been commiting crimes all this time and this is the first time he's been caught at it and is beyond hope?

If you don't think I DO NOT KNOW anything about how these people tick, what to look for and expect, then obviously you know nothing of me.

The more I know of you the less I like about you. Which is neither here nor there. Is what you're saying in this is that from what you've studied that with 100% of the time this occurs, and that the information gathered covers 100% of those who commit these acts either singularily or habitually?

The main problem is that liberal thinkers tend to adopt to Suttons philosophies of crime as being learned, and that it IS NOT inherent in an individual to simply be evil.

Show me studies which prove that people are inherently evil.

You accuse me of being extreme and using extreme examples but sit there and say that we are going to start cutting up speeders and shoplifters?

I asked you where does it stop? At what point in the legal system can we say, screw it, just kill 'em. Who cares about cruel and unusual punishment. At what line do we throw out civilized notions of punishment fitting to crime and just methodically start killing them off? I've listed the potential crimes comitted by both the man and the mob. You've addressed neither of them.

You act as if these kind of sub par criminals who reflect something most members in society do are in the same league of murderers, robbers, rapists, molesters, etc etc etc. If you think that then your logic is severly fucked up.

Again, I'm asking where it stops. Through this whole thread you've been willing to toss out due process of law, and condone the hour long beating and torture of an individual, by a gang of people for masturbating in public. This isn't something that, were he convicted of the crimes and punished to the most severe of sentences, would he be subject to. And you're telling me my logic is fucked up? Heck, you're even willing to advance his crime of masturbating in public to molestng a child.

And we haven't even addressed the possiblity that he could have, although highly unlikely, that he was taking a piss and these people did this and used the other story as an excuse.

 

[Debaser]

Ha I would bet Ill go much further then you, how old are you? 18 was it? High School educated at best? Hmmm well your sentance structure there sure made sense did it not?

Well, if their beloved family member didn't choose to go about terrorizing little children then he would be there with them and supporting them and teaching them how to be a good man wouldn't he? Not getting his rocks off to a child. If any family member of mine did that I would disown them on the spot, I would choose to never be associated with such a disgusting vile piece of filth. And I would turn them over to the law if I knew he planned on doing this, if after the fact I was told I would castrate him myself. Family member or not I will not defend anyone who is evil, when they chose to do something like this they chose to throw away any tie I had to them. They aren't fallout victims of an act of cold blood, they are perhaps only victims of being associated with that person who had vengeance and retribution handed to him. If he had not been who he is, an evil vile animal, then he would be just fine today now would he not?

For being such a "religious" guy, I find it amusing that you have no concept of ethics or morality whatsoever. Good job.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Ha I would bet Ill go much further then you, how old are you? 18 was it? High School educated at best? Hmmm well your sentance structure there sure made sense did it not?

Well, if their beloved family member didn't choose to go about terrorizing little children then he would be there with them and supporting them and teaching them how to be a good man wouldn't he? Not getting his rocks off to a child. If any family member of mine did that I would disown them on the spot, I would choose to never be associated with such a disgusting vile piece of filth. And I would turn them over to the law if I knew he planned on doing this, if after the fact I was told I would castrate him myself. Family member or not I will not defend anyone who is evil, when they chose to do something like this they chose to throw away any tie I had to them. They aren't fallout victims of an act of cold blood, they are perhaps only victims of being associated with that person who had vengeance and retribution handed to him. If he had not been who he is, an evil vile animal, then he would be just fine today now would he not?

Where did he terrorize the child? Maybe there's more to this story than I know of, but if I recall the child was sleeping. I'd imagine the child watching the beating and torture of a man might seriously fuck their minds for the remainder of their life though.

 

[Austin316]

Yea I always claimed to be a religious zealout havn't I? Hmmm as a rule of thumb I treat others how I would like to be treated, people know anythign real about me tend to really like me and would tell you I am one of those people that is right there for them whenever they need it and ask for very little in return. I have a very sick gf whom I stick with and support, and let her take her frustrations on, just to see her through the day and I willl continue to remain there even though she has tried to force me to leave so I wouldn't have to deal with it if worst comes to worst. I treat my friends and loved ones like gold, I give a lot of myself to them. I am protective of them, anyone who gives me respect will have mine in return, but if I don't like you or do not respect you I will damn sure treat you the way I see you. Do the same back, I could care less. I have no tolerance for the sick evil twisted people in this world, and in this country. SSS I do not focus on the world as a whole, but you can't honestyl tell me there isn't a universal set of what it is to be evil here in the USA and you cannot tell me that most people would not consider a pedophile to be one of them. Even other criminals would be quick to kill this person or any other child obsessed freak because it even ASSAULTS their virtues and beliefs. That should say A LOT. What more proof do you need then to look at some of the more famous people and events in the history of this country to not believe people simply had to be born into what they are? John Wayne Gacey, Dhamer, the self proclaimed Vampire who feasted on new born babies he stole from the hospital he worked at? Sure these are extreme, all of these people were proven to be legally sane, and their mere existance is proof of Evil. Do not even begin to argue the validity of the age crime curve and how it truly is one thing that is right on with how society is, nearly all sociologists, especially current ones will not argue against it. Sex offenders yes they ARE THE LEAST LIKELY to reoffend, but its also proven it hs more to do with the age they are let out on, and that people who continue to commit crime into their middle age to old age stages of life are the extreme cases that are HOPELESS. If you have any hope of rehabilitating someone, it has to be done while they are young. You speak as f the current law is perfect and that everything it does is perfect, so it makes me wrong to question it? I don't think so. Ive already told you I agree with crime control, not due process, due process Is only good up till the person is proven guilty, once that happens, or if someone catches you in the act which proves you guilty on the spot, then screw it your done. Im not about giving chances out like candy, on elife ruined should be enough to seal your fate

 

[Vash]

I like it how when you question my intelligence and my age you remembered to use a paragraph for the first time ever. Holy shit look at me I'm smarter, I'm too ignorant to respect others views so I lash out then I get pissed when they defend themselves, then I revert to calling them stupid and kids because they aren't backing down.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Yea I always claimed to be a religious zealout havn't I? Hmmm as a rule of thumb I treat others how I would like to be treated, people know anythign real about me tend to really like me and would tell you I am one of those people that is right there for them whenever they need it and ask for very little in return. I have a very sick gf whom I stick with and support, and let her take her frustrations on, just to see her through the day and I willl continue to remain there even though she has tried to force me to leave so I wouldn't have to deal with it if worst comes to worst. I treat my friends and loved ones like gold, I give a lot of myself to them. I am protective of them, anyone who gives me respect will have mine in return, but if I don't like you or do not respect you I will damn sure treat you the way I see you. Do the same back, I could care less. I have no tolerance for the sick evil twisted people in this world, and in this country. SSS I do not focus on the world as a whole, but you can't honestyl tell me there isn't a universal set of what it is to be evil here in the USA and you cannot tell me that most people would not consider a pedophile to be one of them. Even other criminals would be quick to kill this person or any other child obsessed freak because it even ASSAULTS their virtues and beliefs. That should say A LOT. What more proof do you need then to look at some of the more famous people and events in the history of this country to not believe people simply had to be born into what they are? John Wayne Gacey, Dhamer, the self proclaimed Vampire who feasted on new born babies he stole from the hospital he worked at? Sure these are extreme, all of these people were proven to be legally sane, and their mere existance is proof of Evil. Do not even begin to argue the validity of the age crime curve and how it truly is one thing that is right on with how society is, nearly all sociologists, especially current ones will not argue against it. Sex offenders yes they ARE THE LEAST LIKELY to reoffend, but its also proven it hs more to do with the age they are let out on, and that people who continue to commit crime into their middle age to old age stages of life are the extreme cases that are HOPELESS. If you have any hope of rehabilitating someone, it has to be done while they are young. You speak as f the current law is perfect and that everything it does is perfect, so it makes me wrong to question it? I don't think so. Ive already told you I agree with crime control, not due process, due process Is only good up till the person is proven guilty, once that happens, or if someone catches you in the act which proves you guilty on the spot, then screw it your done. Im not about giving chances out like candy, on elife ruined should be enough to seal your fate

I ride a motorcycle in California. I was splitting lanes in rush hour traffic, which is legal to do in CA. As I was moving along this young woman turned her car into me to keep me from moving past her. I gave the top of her car a sound thump. She yelled out the window how she was calling the cops and that what I was doing was illegal. I waited for the cops to arrive with a grin on my face. Now, if I'd been an asshole, I could have had her charged with vehicular assault. You should have seen the look on her face when she got to find out that what I was doing was correct and she was wrong.

If someone catches anyone in the act of a crime, the law doesn't allow for them to carry out the judgement and punishment. For some reason this concept seems to escape your brain. I'm not sure why, but it does. The law allows for very little latitude when a citizen involves themselves in the apprehension of a criminal and doesn't allow for them to execute punishment for a crime. Another concept which seems to escape you.

It's still not clear how you can rationalize the one hour beating of one man by 6 people including stuffing that stick up his ass. It's even more incredulous that anyone can see that as a fitting punishment.

And I'll ask again if the list I gave of the crimes they could be charged with based on their actions are reasonable.

Oh, and learn to use paragraphs. It will help when trying to read what you're saying.