Nolva vs Clomid opinions wanted

[LAN T]

I have read recently that nolva was better suited for PCT than clomid for various reasons. Actually I'll post the link. Wanted some vets to weigh in with their opinions.

http://www.silownia.net/steroids/a/12154

Thanks
LT

 

[macrophage69alpha]

there is no evidence that nolva is better than clomid for HPGA restoral, in fact quite the opposite. Nolva is better as a priming agent for HCG, but thats about it.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

there is no evidence that nolva is better than clomid for HPGA restoral, in fact quite the opposite. Nolva is better as a priming agent for HCG, but thats about it.

No better person to get a solid answer from then this man.

M18

 

[macrophage69alpha]

the people that brought the "nolva is better" theory are no longer singing its praises, as they based their theory on what one could only deem a very poor understanding of the HPGA.

now the people that listened to them, still post about it and the people that took their work and incorporated it into their own still put it forward. However, there is no clinical or even anecdotal support for it.

Now, there are ways that it can be used, primarily while still suppressed and/or before/with HCG, followed by clomid that can be beneficial. When there is time, plan on putting out some protocol guidelines, based on successful mid and post cycle use.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

that being said when it comes to either alone, tamox is not reccomended. Though it will work ok for some people, though if your highly suppressed it generally wont (its actions of priming require that you have at least minimal LH production for success)

the main issue that people have with clomid is due to overdosing (massive and unecessary frontloads) as well as the failure to use an AI concurrently (reccomend Aromasin or AIFM)

 

[FightersDungeon]

So nolva is sufficient for an Anavar only cycle, but not much else?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

no. Nolva alone is not good PCT for any cycle

 

[krishna]

I like clomid after hcg.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

again thats not to say that nolva cannot be used alone for PCT, people do. People also use nothing post cycle and recover. that also is not "good" PCT. (though at least nolva has the priming effect, so nolva over nothing- is better)

 

[pursuit]

there is no evidence that nolva is better than clomid for HPGA restoral, in fact quite the opposite. Nolva is better as a priming agent for HCG, but thats about it.

Where do get the idea that there is no evidence that nolva is better than clomid for HPGA restoral?
This study shows that 20mg is as effective as 150mg of clomid in restoring testosterone levels:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...st_uids=640052&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum

Also, where do get the idea that nolva is better as a priming agent for HCG and thats about it?