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The only things I see possible in the OP:

1- His stats are real. 5'9, 185lbs, low bf (maybe not 5%)
2- He doesn't appear to have the size of a DEFINITE AAS user. He has decent size
3- He may be someone who genetically is ecto AND uses AAS to look like that.

Things I believe are fake:

1- His lifting #'s. I've seen all kinds of guys who push those #'s. They aren't 185lbs and looking like that. No offense. I think he has a good build going and clearly good bf% control.
 
Ive seen thousands of people who look like this naturally. Its called being young and genetically gifted. He has a high insulin response to food, higher than agv thyroid function, has always had on the high avg test levels. He has been training for years so he has seasoned hard muscle and I do not doubt he can left good numbers ether. His leg press is for pussies anyway I leg press over 2 grand, I was doing 700 when I was 13. Good for him though now lets get him juiced the fuck out and make a real monster out of him..
 
agreed... the leg press/ squat ratio looks way off... anyone should be able to easily get a few reps with at least double their max squat... something is not right here...
one of my favorite lines comes to mind... ''i think me version of a squat is a little different then your version of a squat...''
dont tell me, he eats mcdonalds all day too...

Squat and leg press numbers have no correlation. A squat takes tremendous strength and stability. A leg press all you do is lay there and push. Leg presses are a great assistance exercise but not something to base overall strength on. I have seen people with little quads who can only squat 225 for reps on a smith machine load up a leg press and go to town. The guy in the pic is most likely on something. He probably does have decent genetics as well. No regular skinny/ fat guy can just take juice and be jacked. You have to work hard and genes still play a role in how good you can be.

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Squat and leg press numbers have no correlation. A squat takes tremendous strength and stability. A leg press all you do is lay there and push. Leg presses are a great assistance exercise but not something to base overall strength on. I have seen people with little quads who can only squat 225 for reps on a smith machine load up a leg press and go to town. The guy in the pic is most likely on something. He probably does have decent genetics as well. No regular skinny/ fat guy can just take juice and be jacked. You have to work hard and genes still play a role in how good you can be.

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Exactly... People think its so damn easy to just get jacked as hell on juice. Fuck that shit its its still going to take a lot of hard work and dedication no matter what.
 
totally possible. Good genes though. Same story with my brother. hes so jacked, 190lbs, and around 6-7% bf never even has protein powders or creatine or anything like that. He also works out more consistently and put more effort into his workouts then anyone I know. Just a combo of good genetics and dedication.
 
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