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[moya]

Big leg press doesnt equal big squat.


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exactly... anyone with a 500+ squat should EASILY rep out 1000 on the leg press...
though a 1000lb leg press does not guarantee even a 400 squat...
imo he is too lean at his size to be hitting that squat number... athletic performance is lost at sub-10% bodyfat levels...

 

[bayoumuscle21]

I agree when I was playing ball I was getting mid 5's and after squatting I would leg press over 1000 for reps during a workout.. If ur squating a legit 5 (parallel or lower) then u can play with 7 on a leg press

 

[moya]

^yup, i way hitting 20 reps with 700+ before i even squatted 400... thats just a warmup amount for anyone that squats decent weight...

 

[badboybounce]

A can do 10 pressups with a tub o protein on
Ma back!!!!

 

[bayoumuscle21]

A can do 10 pressups with a tub o protein on
Ma back!!!!

Haha nice

 

[Iron Warrior707]

I cant believe most guys here think he juice, lmao, REALLY? Maybe he take some protein and creatine who knows but his definatly natural looking, and those stats are easily attainable if you work out hard and eat right for 3-4 years.. THere are plenty of real natural guys who are at 5"10 210lb at single digit, not to forget the dude been training for 9 years so its very easily attainable naturally,, if you cant get there being natural you're not training hard or eating like bird..

 

[moya]

I cant believe most guys here think he juice, lmao, REALLY? Maybe he take some protein and creatine who knows but his definatly natural looking, and those stats are easily attainable if you work out hard and eat right for 3-4 years.. THere are plenty of real natural guys who are at 5"10 210lb at single digit, not to forget the dude been training for 9 years so its very easily attainable naturally,, if you cant get there being natural you're not training hard or eating like bird..

well he is 185, and in the 181 weight class a 590 squat would put him in the top 10 in the US ... thats guys that focus their entire life on powerlifting and run cycles...

easily obtainable natty stats eh?...

if the lift numbers are fibbed, as it would seem, it would be reasonable to believe other facts are being skewed...

 

[Power Cord]

Anyone want to say hello to my little friend?

hello little friend

 

[stevesmi]

I cant believe most guys here think he juice, lmao, REALLY? Maybe he take some protein and creatine who knows but his definatly natural looking, and those stats are easily attainable if you work out hard and eat right for 3-4 years.. THere are plenty of real natural guys who are at 5"10 210lb at single digit, not to forget the dude been training for 9 years so its very easily attainable naturally,, if you cant get there being natural you're not training hard or eating like bird..

the stats you mentioned to make your arguement are incorrect.

and we aren't going by stats anyway, we are going by the picture. and by how much he lifts.

 

[Headholio]

I totally believe he could be natural. I never got that strong naturally, but I'm nothing special anyway. Some people just have the genetics.
I benched 360 @198 before I ever touched roids. Did 2 cycles in my life and benched 430 weighing 213 legal in a meet. Squat went from about 480 natural to 550.
Then took 20 years off roids and hit 395 bench weighing 190 at 45 years old. I wasn't even taking vitamins or protein at the time. LOL. Just did it for a company contest where I worked.
Test numbers have never been high either. Now I'm 51, test numbers suck (390 last test).

I think I benefited a lot by lifting for years and being sure I was pretty well maxed out naturally before I ever did any juice. I also think I am better off staying clean since the mid 80's than if I kept playing around with hormones. I might end up on TRT one of these days, but trying to stay natural as long as practical.