Should I add 20-25mg ed dbol to 1st 10wk cycle of Enathat to Kickstart it-GOOD IDEA?

[Randy841]

Should i add low doses of d-bol like 20-25mg ed for the first 4 or 5 wks, is that a good idea for a first cycle?

Would that be any benefit or just increasing the side effects?



THIS IS WHAT I HAVE PLANNED OUT ALREADY:
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DAY 1-68: 10 Week Enathate at 250mg twice wkly = 500mg wkly

DAY 1-73: 500 i.u. HCG Every 5th day starting on 5th day after first shot AND last shot 6 days before starting PCT

DAY 1-100 +: Creatine 10g daily

DAY 69-80: Off

DAY 81-110: PCT
Clomid 300mg[day 1] 100mg[9 days] 50mg [11days]= 21 days

Nolvadex 40mg [14 days] 20mg [16 days] = 30 days
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MOST WORRIED about : Hair Loss and Gyno--other problems usually resolve themselves at the conservative dosages I am planning.

EXPECTATIONS: Looking to gain 15-20 solid muscle [long term] and lose body fat by tweaking diet, if possible
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Age: 25
5'9"
215LB
15-17% body fat
Training 5+
TRAIN 4-6 times wkly 1:30-3:00 hrs + cardio/abs etc.
Bench 275lb+ * 4-8
Squat 315+ * 8-10

Thanks!

 

[Nighthawkk]

Yes, dbol is an excellent way to kickstart a bulk cycle like that. Just make sure you have nolvadex on hand in case gyno appears.

 

[DieselDan]

I love the way d-bol jump starts a cycle. You will see results a lot quicker using d. Only problem is that it will be mostly water-but it is gratifying.

 

[tboy72]

I love the way d-bol jump starts a cycle. You will see results a lot quicker using d. Only problem is that it will be mostly water-but it is gratifying.

i dont understand......i kno we all like size, but when you guys do these bulking cycles or using dbol, even if you have the best pct....arent you still going to loss a majority of your gains hence the water weight. im sticking to cycles where i wont hold water, will gain lean muscle mass and with a good pct ill keep 90% and look good! do you guys like that bloated look?
var, for me anyways and imo, is the best stuff there is....you look good, and you get very lean...at least i do. ive keeped most of my gains if not all.
but i guess we all like size...lol...even if it isint lbm
my next cycle 50 mgs a day var and 100 mgs a day prop and eat a ton clean protien!
are you a pro b.builder? cause then i could see a need for bulking....dont you wanna look good?
sorry yo bug ya, but its somthing ive always wondered why pepole realy dont mind holding water...beside after most pepole look like shit, and older...

 

[mikebzt]

I would do the d-bol at 50mg

 

[_Yossarian_]

I would do the d-bol at 50mg

its only his first cycle, 25mg is more than enough....

 

[Randy841]

i dont understand......i kno we all like size, but when you guys do these bulking cycles or using dbol, even if you have the best pct....arent you still going to loss a majority of your gains hence the water weight. im sticking to cycles where i wont hold water, will gain lean muscle mass and with a good pct ill keep 90% and look good! do you guys like that bloated look?
var, for me anyways and imo, is the best stuff there is....you look good, and you get very lean...at least i do. ive keeped most of my gains if not all.
but i guess we all like size...lol...even if it isint lbm
my next cycle 50 mgs a day var and 100 mgs a day prop and eat a ton clean protien!
are you a pro b.builder? cause then i could see a need for bulking....dont you wanna look good?
sorry yo bug ya, but its somthing ive always wondered why pepole realy dont mind holding water...beside after most pepole look like shit, and older...

Just on the water retention issue...are you not holding just as much water with testosterone as d-bol? If so, how is the water accumulation in the body with d-bol any different?

..."most people look like shit, and older" -- MEANING?

 

[Randy841]

Yes, dbol is an excellent way to kickstart a bulk cycle like that. Just make sure you have nolvadex on hand in case gyno appears.

Is Nolva alone really enough as two AAS Enanthate and D-bol are stacked -- for gyno, which makes the water retention and estrogen levels higher?

 

[Randy841]

its only his first cycle, 25mg is more than enough....

Are small doses of d-bol not as effective?

What is the lowest dosage that can be taken to have some positive effect on the body?

 

[GEEK2FREAK]

take 25 mgs per day for 4 weeks and then the rest enanthate...make momma proud!!!