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Dorians recent cycle published in MD magazine....

Omna is Sust, they changed it 10 years ago or something like that so they are the same. Omna tends to be cheaper but still very effective.

i guess they are pretty close but i know that 1 of the 4 esters is different between the two.. not sure though how much of a difference it would make
 
Dorians recent cycle published in MD magazine....

I was wondering what the board thought of this:

pre olympia-
weekly

Test Prop 300mg
tren 152 mg
primobolan 500mg
Daily- Anavar 50mg
GH 8 ius

offseason cycle-
weekly-

Test 750mg
Deca- 500mg
Anavar daily- 50mg

Seems pretty mild, Im sure at some point Dorian said he never used insulin!! Lee Priest also claims to use small amount's, and on a seminar video Platz said he never went above 700mg p/week!!!! I would be interested to hear the boards opinion on all this...

Sometimes I seen these insane cycles that some of the pros are supposed to be on. This one here one could beleive.
DORIANS great genetics,,training,,diet combined with the above cycles,,,I doubt he needed much more.
 
I saw a picture of Dorian that I believe was taken about a month ago and he seriously looks about the same size as he was back in the "Blood in the Face" days... I was shocked at how small he looked... If I had to guess I'd say under 200lbs...

Man I loved the old Dorian... The dude was the epitome of intensity...

That motherfucker got down to business when he hit the gym... Short, incredibly intense workouts...

To this day I still follow a lot of the Mentzer principals based on following Dorian during his Olympia reign. I don't think any of my workouts ever take longer than 45-60 minutes (weight training). In and out baby...
 
Even if he was taking more gear then that, MD knows people will get stupid and try to copy his cycle.
 
Ross and I butt head a lot, but when he's right, he's right.

I know it's hard for people to accept, but pros aren't pros because they take more gear than everyone else. They're pros because they have ungodly genetics AND a great reaction to gear.

Could they be exaggerating and maybe forgetting a little this or that? Sure. But I've seen guys blow up on a few dbol a day and I've seen guys take over 2 grams a week and they looked no better than when they took 750.

So yeah, I believe it. Look at Dorian after one year of training. The progress was ridiculous. THe guy just had those one in a million genetics.

Thing is Nelson, in his later years Dorian had a very drugged up look to him, yu can tell how the androgens had affected his face...he also said he never took insulin......
 
Thing is Nelson, in his later years Dorian had a very drugged up look to him, yu can tell how the androgens had affected his face...he also said he never took insulin......

I didn't think he had an androgen face. Close to contest time it looked like his skin was leathery and dehydrated, but that's to be expected. Insulin? Yeah, he probably took some. Again, he may have skimped here and there on what he really took, but we're talking about Dorian fucking Yates. There are guys on this board who weigh 180 pounds using more than he did. And you know what? They can take TEN grams a DAY and they STILL won't look anywhere close.

And that illustrates my point. Bodybuilding is about making your body the best it can be and steroids can help. But it's gotten to the point where the drugs have become the reason, the result and the ultimate determination of peoples progress and that never lasts and never ends well. And it creates an environment of ignorance that is passed on and on.

Hell, in my pic, I'm 44. I'm a skinny fuck with shit genetics. At that time I'd done only a handful of cycles. Never touched a steroid till I was 40. Never went over 600 mgs a week. Never used slin. Never used Tren. Never went over 6 weeks in length. And I placed in the NPC. And again, my genetics suck!

So I can say with all honesty, guys who have that natural ability can look ungodly. And those who don't -- never will.

And that's how that song goes.
 
fuk i've cranked 300mg a bombs 2 grams front loading prop where the fuk is my mr o trophy......... whatever he used just watching him train is inspiring. it is funny though when it'll will pop up somewhere on the net especially the natural bbuilding sites that a pro let it slip about taking gear, and its like they just busted them and all the nerds are posting " see they do use steroids the cheats blah fukin blah " heres a giveaway for those retards, if they have a mr narural compatition or any event with a natural in front of it, then the events that have that word removed and every compeditor is 8 times the size, how much more evidence do you need.... it doesnt remove their hard work dedication everyday every second, pump all the juice you can find and one in a million has what it takes, and that 1 person has to be living and breathing the sport, i dont care about how much of what they took, thats only one small part of why they stand on stage with the winners trophy
 
Did/does he have great genetics? YES, I believe he might have done that cycle here and there, but I also believe he used large amounts preping for Mr. O. IMO, there's no way that was his cycle pre-olympia training.
 
Apparently he has stated that he wasn't blessed with great genetics compared to his fellow competitors; Flex and Kevin Levrone but he makes a point about only spending 3 hours a week in the gym while the other guys were training twice a day 6-7 days week. He believes this had a lot to do with his freakish results.
 
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