12% to 7% BF in 4-6 weeks NO MUSCLE LOSS

[resulthead]

Yeah anybody with good genetics can get results...
I even think about dieting and I loose muscle and no I know how to do it properly
Many people with good genetic always attribute it to the hard work which is not always the case or only half the story

 

[Deleted member 33117]

>>>> You probably can't read . I said that I have been 8-9 % in the past . AND I didn't rely on a FREAKING stupid cocktail to help me maintain my lbm to reach 8 % . So ,take a guess , JACKASS ( hey that rhymes ) .I stand to my point . That cocktail is NOT NEEDED to maintain your LBM even when trying to reach 7 % . I understand your point that from 20 % to 15 % is one thing , but from 12 % to 7 % is another , of COURSE it is . You doesn't have to be a fucking genious to know that , we all know that . Oh and btw , you probably didn't look into the thread I linked you , take your precious time and look into IT .

So , about your challenge , sorry but as soon as I hit 12 % I am gonna start a bulking cycle , then switch it directly to a cutting one .On my cutting cycle I will try to reach 5 % , and I won't be using anywhere NEAR those amounts of drugs that you suggested and I will still be able to maintain or INCREASE my LBM .


That is my point here , DIET is the KEY to maintain or even increase your LBM when trying to lose bodyfat ( even if it is to 12 % to 7 % in 6 weeks) , drugs will help of course , but they are not a miracle and you don't need 4 g of AAS a week to maintain your LBM even on a very hypocaloric diet .


Victor

I read it. You did not read mine. We are talking abotu a reasonably sized individual doing this IN 5 WEEKS without losing lean body mass. We have been talking about you and your posts outside the open forum, and I've already been told you are an idiot ho knows nothing about diet or steroids, will not listen to any advice given, and will just argue. That I should not bother. I was hoping to prove them wrong. Guess I lose. Don't bother replying to this. Just put up your bofore and after pictrues when done. Bye.

 

[georgie24]

yea post pics. and shit talk some more i love this shit!!!

 

[Fonz]

I can drop 1.5%BF/week using 200mg DNP/day and a clan diet.


Add Tren/Test/Proviron/Winstrol + 100mcg T3...and you "might" get to 2lbs fat/week

But you will lose muscle. Unless you add Halo before workouts.

But that's insano-stack-of-the-year-award.

 

[VictorBR]

I read it. You did not read mine. We are talking abotu a reasonably sized individual doing this IN 5 WEEKS without losing lean body mass. We have been talking about you and your posts outside the open forum, and I've already been told you are an idiot ho knows nothing about diet or steroids, will not listen to any advice given, and will just argue. That I should not bother. I was hoping to prove them wrong. Guess I lose. Don't bother replying to this. Just put up your bofore and after pictrues when done. Bye.

>>>> Yes, I read it. And yes, we are talking about a reasonably sized individual doing this in 5 WEEKS, and I STAND to my POINT that this individual doesn't NEED 4 fucking GRAMS of AAS per week to maintain his LBM when trying to drop from 12 to 7 % body fat in 5 weeks, and ALSO he doesn't need to starve himself. With just a lil Prop and winny AND the right diet, he can maintain or even INCREASE his LBM while dropping from 12 to 7 % over a period of 5 weeks.

Say whatever it is you need to for you to make yourself feel better. You know what I'm talking about. This is the first time I am having a discussion with someone here, someone who is arrogant, someone who insults people without a reason, and someone who thinks he knows everything, when in fact he knows about as much as a monkey at the zoo. I agree. I probably do not know that much about roids and diet compared to the other members here, that is why I am 225 lbs and 15 % with 18 inch guns and never did a real cycle on my life, only some pathetic doses of winny, eq and HGH back in 2001. I speak from real life experience and I am always trying to learn. I am about to start a serious cycle in august - September, and you will be the first one to receive the before and after pictures. You will probably say: "WOW, this is some transformation, can you please share your cycle, training and diet program please?"

And then, I will give you a word that starts with letter "F ".

Hold on , It's not what you think. It is actually FORGIVENESS.

Don't hate me because you are in better shape than me now and I still get more pussy than you do. I am talking real girls. Not the pictures and chat rooms you are used to.


Later bro



Victor

 

[Deleted member 33117]

>>>> Yes, I read it. And yes, we are talking about a reasonably sized individual doing this in 5 WEEKS, and I STAND to my POINT that this individual doesn't NEED 4 fucking GRAMS of AAS per week to maintain his LBM when trying to drop from 12 to 7 % body fat in 5 weeks, and ALSO he doesn't need to starve himself. With just a lil Prop and winny AND the right diet, he can maintain or even INCREASE his LBM while dropping from 12 to 7 % over a period of 5 weeks.

Say whatever it is you need to for you to make yourself feel better. You know what I'm talking about. This is the first time I am having a discussion with someone here, someone who is arrogant, someone who insults people without a reason, and someone who thinks he knows everything, when in fact he knows about as much as a monkey at the zoo. I agree. I probably do not know that much about roids and diet compared to the other members here, that is why I am 225 lbs and 15 % with 18 inch guns and never did a real cycle on my life, only some pathetic doses of winny, eq and HGH back in 2001. I speak from real life experience and I am always trying to learn. I am about to start a serious cycle in august - September, and you will be the first one to receive the before and after pictures. You will probably say: "WOW, this is some transformation, can you please share your cycle, training and diet program please?"

And then, I will give you a word that starts with letter "F ".

Hold on , It's not what you think. It is actually FORGIVENESS.

Don't hate me because you are in better shape than me now and I still get more pussy than you do. I am talking real girls. Not the pictures and chat rooms you are used to.


Later bro



Victor

Yeah, good luck on those pictures. I'm glad to see that you get more ass than me.

 

[Fonz]

BBF...lol

Damn man, you should neuter yourself with a shot of methyl-progesterone for a brief period of time, I swear it's detrimental to your psyche. Women are great, but too much of a good thing = bad

Besides, aren't in Texas A&M? it was my 2nd choice University, and those aggie women redefine the word loose from what I've heard and seen.

 

[georgie24]

fonz i was wondering what is your take on primo? i noticed you dont really talk about that one either..im just curious..

btw..thanks for the powerbutter tip!!

 

[Fonz]

fonz i was wondering what is your take on primo? i noticed you dont really talk about that one either..im just curious..

btw..thanks for the powerbutter tip!!

Primo is too weak an AAS when you do HIT cardio like soccer. But for everyday cycle use it's quite good.

Almost no sides(Just the injections can be sometimes painful), good anabolic, almsot xero androgenicity....and works at moderate dosages stacked with test or/Var/ or EQ witha clean diet. 400mg/week is enough.

I prefer Var though. Easier to administer if you travel.

 

[Jenetic]

I can drop 1.5%BF/week using 200mg DNP/day and a clan diet.


Add Tren/Test/Proviron/Winstrol + 100mcg T3...and you "might" get to 2lbs fat/week

But you will lose muscle. Unless you add Halo before workouts.

But that's insano-stack-of-the-year-award.

FONZ,

I am a bit confused right now. You made a very valid and justifable theory on gaining muscle while on a Hypocaloric diet (hypertrophy, nitrogen retention and protein bioavailability). It made perfect sense. The issues of cortisol, keto acids and insulin were also addressed by Huck. Now some may argue that the previously discussed theory only applies to people with a training age of a short period of time (beginers), but the theory should apply to everyone as long as the factors and controls mentioned on the other thread are in place. Shouldn't it?

I'm not looking to start an argument but only looking for some clarification as your valued input and contributions are always appreciated.

Could you please summarize things if possible?

Thanks in advance.