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12% to 7% BF in 4-6 weeks NO MUSCLE LOSS

BodyByFinaplix said:
Not without a large loss in lbm. DNP is catabolic. I have told you this in IM's. Now that you put it in an open forum, you'll get similar responses.

As for the original question, that is a very unrealistic goal. Its doable with ALOt of drugs, to go from 12% to 7% in 5 weeks, however you will need to starve yourselve, use a fair amount ot t3, and more gear than you would normally use on a bulking cycle (it will vary depending on your size, genetics etc) and expect a rebound afterwards.

DNP catabolic? Uncoupling generally results in loss of fat and AMPk activiation is generally considered anti-catabolic. Why do you think it's catabolic? (Just wondering).

Look into UD2 by Lyle Mcondald. People on his board usually drop from around 15->10 in 6 weeks sometimes gaining mass.
 
a search on the diet board for everything by mr. x.
he has a ton of great diet programs.
or contact swolecat (www.swolecat.com) for a custom diet/ i would recommend either of these if you are seroius about dropping bf quickly.
 
georgie24 said:
add 6% to thatreading. they are not accurate at all so your more like 15-17% comfortably

Where do you recommend I get a more accurate reading done?

The reading was done at a Gym (LA FITNESS) where I live.
 
you would have to have some killer genetics
 
Where were all you guys when this thread was hot?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=326824

There were some great topics discussed and some interesting points that were brought to attention there. Unfortunately, I think many of the people have hypothesized the conclusion that "All I have to do is get on some juice and not pay attention to training and nutrition (because I should grow regardless). It's no longer the idea of educating yourself on maximizing results or breaking plateaus with supplementation. Also, just because you can, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Don't get all bent out of shape when you read the above statement. You guys know who you are. The ones who are smart enough know that I am not talking about them.
 
Jenetic said:
Where were all you guys when this thread was hot?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=326824

There were some great topics discussed and some interesting points that were brought to attention there. Unfortunately, I think many of the people have hypothesized the conclusion that "All I have to do is get on some juice and not pay attention to training and nutrition (because I should grow regardless). It's no longer the idea of educating yourself on maximizing results or breaking plateaus with supplementation. Also, just because you can, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Don't get all bent out of shape when you read the above statement. You guys know who you are. The ones who are smart enough know that I am not talking about them.

Well said.
 
SLICED,

I assume you are not a competitive body builder. In that case, don't let time determine your results. You're lifestyle change will ultimately get you to your goal and help you stay there.

I believe that by increasing your calories a bit, primarily to match your increased expenditure from training and to supply additional nutrients, adjusting your macronutrient ratios to maximize hypertrophy and use stored fat for energy and adding in some AAS to enhance nutrient uptake and lypolysis will be a great way to approach your goal verus going through the process of extreme dieting.

Understanding the details of nutrition can be a very powerful weapon and have drug-like effects.

Best of Luck
 
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BodyByFinaplix said:
You obvioulsy have never been at 7% bodyfat. I did not say this was needed to drop 5% bodyfat. You read something that was not in my posts. I hate when people do that I clearly said 12% to 7%. When someone is fat, like you, at 15% plus. Yes it is not unobtainable to lose 1% bodyfat in a week, especially if there are small (200 lbs or less) naturallly, without a loss of lbm. HOwever when you have a bit more size and are talking about getting extremely lean in the 7% range, we are not talking about the same topic. It is not even in the same ballpark. I stand by my original statement. Tell you what jackass. If you think you are right, I challenege you to get to 12% from your current high level, the get your bodyfat and such tested hydrostatically, then try your game plan and get tested again in 5 weeks and see where you are. I think you will be very shocked at the results.


>>>> You probably can't read . I said that I have been 8-9 % in the past . AND I didn't rely on a FREAKING stupid cocktail to help me maintain my lbm to reach 8 % . So ,take a guess , JACKASS ( hey that rhymes ) .I stand to my point . That cocktail is NOT NEEDED to maintain your LBM even when trying to reach 7 % . I understand your point that from 20 % to 15 % is one thing , but from 12 % to 7 % is another , of COURSE it is . You doesn't have to be a fucking genious to know that , we all know that . Oh and btw , you probably didn't look into the thread I linked you , take your precious time and look into IT .

So , about your challenge , sorry but as soon as I hit 12 % I am gonna start a bulking cycle , then switch it directly to a cutting one .On my cutting cycle I will try to reach 5 % , and I won't be using anywhere NEAR those amounts of drugs that you suggested and I will still be able to maintain or INCREASE my LBM .


That is my point here , DIET is the KEY to maintain or even increase your LBM when trying to lose bodyfat ( even if it is to 12 % to 7 % in 6 weeks) , drugs will help of course , but they are not a miracle and you don't need 4 g of AAS a week to maintain your LBM even on a very hypocaloric diet .


Victor
 
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