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Frisky said:
Ok here is where i have a problem, EQUAL... remember.... Its ok for me to walk into the break room and be subjected to Playboy magazines, or walk into a superviser office and have this plastered all over the wall... but yet not ok for me to tell 'X' to fuck off when he hits on me and asks to see my tits. Apparently you don't work in a male dominated industry... or else you would have a diffent opinion as to how a woman responds in situations.

If you tuck your head and walk away then it will happen over and over, If you stand up for yourself then (in most cases) they will leave you the hell alone.

I speak my mind, I say what I have to say... I don't give one flying FUCK (truck driver speaking here) what a damn person here thinks about me because ....... really.... those that have met me know I am a good person. YES, i am really blunt, and thats a quality that may be good or bad. I will say what I have to say when I have to say it and what choice words I need to use to get my pt across.

OK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFF soap box again! work to do


You verbally assault someone for inappropriate behavior. You post nude avatars on here and have had frank and open conversations about sex. You constantly mention your underwear. Absolutely none of this behavior carries over into your work life? I doubt you're a prudish little miss innocent there. Just because something is said that you don't want to hear, you're a victim? You choose to do what you do. Why, with all of the pics of yourself that you've posted would you have a problem with Playboy? Just nuts.
 
Frisky said:
Ok here is where i have a problem, EQUAL... remember.... Its ok for me to walk into the break room and be subjected to Playboy magazines, or walk into a superviser office and have this plastered all over the wall... but yet not ok for me to tell 'X' to fuck off when he hits on me and asks to see my tits. Apparently you don't work in a male dominated industry... or else you would have a diffent opinion as to how a woman responds in situations.

If you tuck your head and walk away then it will happen over and over, If you stand up for yourself then (in most cases) they will leave you the hell alone.

I speak my mind, I say what I have to say... I don't give one flying FUCK (truck driver speaking here) what a damn person here thinks about me because ....... really.... those that have met me know I am a good person. YES, i am really blunt, and thats a quality that may be good or bad. I will say what I have to say when I have to say it and what choice words I need to use to get my pt across.

OK>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFF soap box again! work to do

Well in fact I work at a company that is 95% male. I am the ONLY woman in my dept (200 men).
In fact, I am the woman at this company of 1500 employees (my division is all men) that filed suit against my company for harassment. Because of my efforts they implemented (for the first time ever) a harassment policy and hired a full time lawyer in HR to make sure it's followed.
The men who were brutal to me, were suspended and some quit.
Seeing them feel the same humiliation I did by looking like fools with their suspensions was much more gratifying than telling them to F off!
So, I am not clueless to how women are treated.
I just handle it differently. I would never tell any co-worker to F off if he hit on me. I have been told "I hired you for your looks not your brains" "Hey honey give me a blow job" etc....I work with shop guys so you can imagine what else I was told.
I fought back the legal way and won. I also don't talk derogatory to my co-workers.
Many women have been treated poorly, some just defend themselves in different ways.
Getting a point across with vulgarity does not earn respect


oh and P.s...I am not clerical, I have a higher position that most of the men I work with.
 
jnevin said:
There's nothing to learn. There is a difference in the sexes, people flame each other on here, some people are more sensitive than others, and there are some people here that have different ideas of how to enjoy time with members of the opposite sex. Big fucking deal. Oddly, the ones that do the most whining about it are supposedly the "strongest" too. It's nothing new. It's a matter of disrespectful people in general, nothing based on gender. That's just a cop out.

i agree with you completely.
and I love frisky btw.
 
Frisky said:
honey... I've taken bullshit from females and males... i've also held my own. If you actually can comprehend what I am talking about then this actual post by you wouldn't have been made.

No doubt...... you flame, I flame..... but NOW, go and do a little search, its there for you to do... and check out every damn time a female post anything on this bitch and see how flamed she is. DOESN'T even matter the quality of the post, because PLEASE....... there are more bull shit post by the males here than by the females.

I don't need nor do I want cuddling, (besides by my beau.... and wait and see the flame I get for even mentioning the word beau :rolleyes: ) I ask for equal and I expect it, for good and for bad.

BTW, I can't ever recall flaming you or ANY new C&C poster unless they degraded me and then hell yea, I say what I have to say.

So now, lets take this down a notch, and break it down... just a tad bit for those that can't comprehend the meaning of this thread. I can give a flying f**k less what anyone here thinks of me, the only one that matters are the ones I love. The problem is that there are many of women that are pushed away (speaking of NEW women that join here ) For no damn reason at all. I have (nope I am not perfect i admit that ) had choice words with a few male and female members, but all for one reason or another. I mostly prefer to take it to pm's but sometimes that doesn't work, they won't addy up and respond so thats where a thread is in order.

Now... Frisky jumps off the soap box and allows another to step on.

:heart:

Frisky (aptly named), I just said I was flamed by EF women in my posts. I don't think they were sexist just because they happen to be the opposite sex. They were just having a little fun at my expense. No big deal, we all do it. If you want to invite people just warn them that there is a little humorous banter back and forth. Tell them just to go with it.
 
ok, so basically what Both of you condone is constant behavior twords me (the only female in my dept) that is clearly considered stalking, and constant vulgar requests? I dealt with it for years, and it got to a pt where I had to stand up for myself BECAUSE, i didn't have any backing. Obviously neither of you work in an oil field related business.

Now for ONE jnevin, where did I say I made an input to HR about playboy? NOT ONE DAMN TIME... YES I could have, but I didn't. Then, I've never posted full nude shots for my ava... ever. If you would see how I dress daily to go to work you would be in shock, I wear beat up jeans and basic t's sometimes a jacket when in the office. I am covered to the T, I don't request or ask for this bullshit and I took it for 6 years until one dipshit couldn't take the fact that I turned him down and began to stalk me. I sit in my office about 70% of the day, the other 30% I am either running around doing measurments or IT work. I don't have the time nor the desire to fuck with any of these morons. The ONLY person I've ever raised my voice to and spoke vulgar to was that person in particular because it seemed the company wasn't standing up to him and I wasn't letting anyone belittle or degrade me.

I am BY FAR PERFECT, but because I have tits does that give anyone the right to think they can touch them?

I handled the situation with absolute calmness for 4 years, and nothing was ever done about it. I brushed it off, and contiunued on with my job... Never looking back. I don't care if you have naked pics in your office, why should I?

AS smart as some of you claim to be, a simple grasp of what I am saying is completely going over your heads.

Its damn DAMN hard to insult me (unless it deals with my kids) But I won't now or EVER deal with a man stalking me over and over again. I don't give a damn how i dress or what the fuck I post on EF.

So basically what you are saying J is that a girl that works in a strip clup deserves to be raped or violated because she asked for it due to her job and her work attire. I'm sorry ...... I BEG TO DIFFER HERE. I don't go sit out in the shop and converse with the welders, hang out and bullshit with them. If things are going on say a BBQ or the Boss gets a few beers, I stick my ass sitting right here in my desk and I enjoy it here AT MY DESK IN MY SPACE.

The ONLY time I converse with the workers are if it is pertaining to a drawing. That is all. Work is work for me. So don't even try to pull that bullshit card on me.

blue... Kudo's to you... but ya know what.... I am also in a field that basically is 99% male and ME that 1% female. Sure there are office staff that are female but my interaction with them is maybe once a week. I never before had to be vulgar to anyone in my staff, that is NOT ME at all. All of my welders are great and respectful, but there is always ONE asshole in the bunch that can't take rejection. THEN ya know what... when HR, won't do its job and I'm left to do it on my own then I stand up and say what I have to say. BTW... said employee is no longer here.
 
Frisky honey, you are talking about personal shit now. I was replying to your general statements about the C&C forum which is what this thread is about. If you're going to get pissed at us, at least start a new thread that indicates your personal situation rather than C&C as a whole towards women. No one even knows what the hell you are talking about now.
 
so will the poor tortured females who get flamed more than everyone else , please post up?
 
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