ninjitsu

[digger]

Yep. I forget the book's title. It's a paraphrase, not a quote, and the summary is pure digger.

 

[Bam]

I think I have proven my point here, Digger what do you think?

All these Hostile responses tell me a lot about the people posting them. I would have to say that if these people (or anyone) for that matter who allowed themselves to get this worked up in a real life conflict would be at a great dis-advantage in that conflict. The most important qualities I think are awarness and self control. Emotions will cloud a persons perceptions and if this happens they have lost the game. We who study Ninjutsu value "Balance" above all else. I can take away the mental and physical balance of a person very easily by creating these emotions we have seen displayed here! If I take away a persons balance I have control over them.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Well, I doubt you'd have complete control over them. Actually, I can say you 100% wouldn't. You may be one step ahead, but that's nothing a quick strike couldn't remedy.

Either way, HeavyDuty was a bit hostile, and I myself apologized in a PM already.

I don't think any one MA would prove ideal for any situation. Even if it did, I'd feel more comfortable having a wide array of arts at my disposal. Not to mention the pride of having taken part in so many forms of fighting. To learn from many different schools is mastery, in my eyes.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

Wow, you guys are very pc tonight. I stated plain and simple, if bam enjoys his art that is all that is important. Hostile? Worked up with emotion? NO! I guess my sarcasm comes across the wrong way here, I have been training martial arts virtually my whole life and that gives me the right to speak about the ones that i have studied. I have nothing to prove that the UFC has not proved for me already about what arts are superior and which ones were exposed for the frauds that they always were when it comes to self defense, and that includes ninjiutsu among others. Digger, improvising on the fly with chairs and bottles isn't some sacred art, it has been called bar room brawling for as long as I can remember. Okay? Bam, I hope you are not taking yourself too seriously when you type these posts, because they have been quite entertaining for me to read with all the controlling through emotional balance crap you are spewing. I am a collegiate wrestler, I live, eat and breath my training everyday, full time not part time. It is aggressive, rough, and physically and mentally challenging. It is the oldest form of combat known to man virtually. You wanna know how we win matches, conditioning, mental toughness, repitition in training, and agressiveness. I doubt highly that any group of martial artists train as hard as serious wrestlers do, and I am a martial artist saying that. Ninjiutsu will never stack up to these measurables in any art, you'll be too busy trying to throw an attacker off their emotional balance right before you realize that you should have studied a more effective art as you come crashing down on your head most likely. I won't make any apologies like others on here for my statements, who cares? This is an internet discussion, I stand by them and believe that if you enjoy what you do then cool, but don't hate on me because you believe that your art is not highly inferior to real martial arts such as bjj, mt, judo, or wrestling. When in fact it is. If my comments are too agressive for some of you, cool. That trait is in my blood and has never costed me a street fight when that instance has ocurred. If you don't think that agression can be honed and turned into a positive in your training and in life, then maybe you are not as in touch with yourself as you think you are.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I am a collegiate wrestler, I live, eat and breath my training everyday, full time not part time. It is aggressive, rough, and physically and mentally challenging. It is the oldest form of combat known to man virtually. You wanna know how we win matches, conditioning, mental toughness, repitition in training, and agressiveness. I doubt highly that any group of martial artists train as hard as serious wrestlers do, and I am a martial artist saying that..

Can I get a fucking AMEN! to that.

Ninjiutsu will never stack up to these measurables in any art, you'll be too busy trying to throw an attacker off their emotional balance right before you realize that you should have studied a more effective art as you come crashing down on your head most likely. I won't make any apologies like others on here for my statements, who cares? This is an internet discussion, I stand by them and believe that if you enjoy what you do then cool, but don't hate on me because you believe that your art is not highly inferior to real martial arts such as bjj, mt, judo, or wrestling. When in fact it is. If my comments are too agressive for some of you, cool. That trait is in my blood and has never costed me a street fight when that instance has ocurred. If you don't think that agression can be honed and turned into a positive in your training and in life, then maybe you are not as in touch with yourself as you think you are.

I can't even think of stepping in front of an opponent unless my heart is filled with emotions and my blood is boiling. The Fear, Anger, and the Adrenaline Rush, Right before a fight should not "cloud" your mind but rather put you in a "Zone". You are more aware of everything… your opponent's movements seem to be in slow motion... His center of gravity is easy to read like you are reading this post right now, any shift in his center of gravity will automatically trigger a subconscious response in your brain where you just "know" he is planning a strike or he has left himself open for a throw or strike… Your Endorphins should have you so doped up you can get hit pretty fucking hard and not feel it till the next day, when you are at home in cloud nine feeling good about having overcome your opponent.
Forget all the Ninja mind games.... Harness your emotions, don’t force any moves, only take what the man gives you. When your heart tells you to make a move… never second guess yourself, just throw that shit!

 

[Bam]

Well, I doubt you'd have complete control over them. Actually, I can say you 100% wouldn't. You may be one step ahead, but that's nothing a quick strike couldn't remedy.

Either way, HeavyDuty was a bit hostile, and I myself apologized in a PM already.

I don't think any one MA would prove ideal for any situation. Even if it did, I'd feel more comfortable having a wide array of arts at my disposal. Not to mention the pride of having taken part in so many forms of fighting. To learn from many different schools is mastery, in my eyes.

I agree with you about having a variety of skills. I got your apology and thank you.

 

[Bam]

Bam, I hope you are not taking yourself too seriously when you type these posts

No more than you or anyone else here.

 

[digger]

It's a fact that "boiling blood" leads to a whole complex of things, including a sense of time slowing down and decreased sensitivity to pain, both good in a fight -- but also to a virtual shutdown of hearing, and tunnel vision. When you lock in on the man in front of you, you risk becoming blind to the guy coming up behind you with that chair. Mas Ayoob (NH police trainer, expert witness) has a column in American Handgunner where he analyzes both police and civilian shootings, and he comes back to these points over and over.

Harnessing your aggression and the repetition of training? Amen! But I'm not talking about grabbing just any old chair -- and getting your chest stove in with a sidekick while you're trying to hoist it over your head.

Imagine someone who consciously scans every room when he walks in and PICKS which chair is light enough to swing and solid enough to hurt; whether the ballpoint pen on the desk will penetrate a skull or not... Someone who does that not just when he feels threatened, but as naturally as breathing. That's the difference between my interpretation of "ninja" and a barroom brawler.

I suspect I'm rather far away from Bam's interpretation, too, and I should find a different word.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Imagine someone who consciously scans every room when he walks in and PICKS which chair is light enough to swing and solid enough to hurt; whether the ballpoint pen on the desk will penetrate a skull or not... Someone who does that not just when he feels threatened, but as naturally as breathing.

Digger has been watching "The Bourne Identity"

 

[digger]

Digger has been watching "The Bourne Identity"

Nope. Grosse Point Blank.