ninjitsu

[DANABOLIC55]

Isn't Ninjitsu the style van damne (frank dux) used in the movie Blood sport? That is supposed to be a true story and apparently that guy went undefeated in the full contact event the kumite for like 5 years.

it was exposed that all of that was bullshit.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

You Bet!!

She is Hawaiian and I am the Howlie

This thread is useless without pics or video clips.


PS: When you say you have "trained with" Rangers and Navy Seal... how did that come about?

 

[hub5326]

I've been out of the teams since 97 but I can tell you as a former seal that no one art is taught and to my knowledge no ninja has ever taught or instructed inside of the teams. In its inception there was a program called scars that was taught and the instructors who taught the course sought out the most devastating strikes, blows and moves from many arts that could incapacitate an attacker in the shortest possible time. The program evolved from there and is now a very effective fighting system based on many of the arts talked about on the board from bjj, to muay thai, not a competitive art but a system designed to end fights and save your life in event you are on your last line of defense.

Digger is right on with where he was coming from with fighting dirty, hard and using anything and everything to your advantage to end the fight as soon as possible. I'm familiar with Ayob and the most famous gun fighting trainer in the world is probably Jeff Cooper. They believe in awareness depending on the situation you are in. If you are in your house for instance, low threat(yellow) when you are moving from your house you are into an (orange) zone or heightened awareness, and when you are in that situation that has the possibility for trouble (red). When in orange and red you are looking for targets, weapons, and exits so when a problem erupts you are prepared. The preparation allows you to relax and use all of your abilities and surroundings to the most effective manner. Fighting while mad or angry only causes you to loose focus on your surroundings and make mistakes.

When I met a person (completely outside of the military) who had some knowledge of ninjitsu he told me the thinking was to never fight fair. If it was going to be a one on one fight or they believed the odds weren't in their favor so they would avoid the fight completely. Who knows that could all be a bullshit excuse as to why they don't compete but they do work very hard on balance and timing which is really the key to most practical arts used in fighting today.

hub5326

 

[Bam]

This thread is useless without pics or video clips.


PS: When you say you have "trained with" Rangers and Navy Seal... how did that come about?

Personal Friends who were serving in those forces and who train in various arts in civilian life.

 

[Bam]

This thread is useless without pics or video clips.


I have pics but they are not digital, And I don't have a scanner.

 

[Bam]

So bam, you are training with Rangers and Seals. I think that is great, I am out here helping give seminars to the troops and police officers. I am helping teach our troops more effective self defense and hand to hand combat to use in war. What does your art contribute to society? Seriously. Hot coals are cool bro, but they do not get up and fight back and threaten you. It has no real bearing on a street fight or self defense situation. Sure you can keep your mental focus when it comes to a dead non living organism, but what about the real deal?

I do not study to contribute to society, I study to better my self.

I contribute to society by sharing my skills with kids that cannot otherwise afford training.

Walking on fire is simply a confirmation of ones ability to assimilate the energy around one self. This ability comes in handy when the time comes to defend against an attack. Sensing the attack when it comes from behind or from more than one direction is vital. Control and use of energy is the point I am making.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

You really are not making much of a point though. It is more like a joke you keep making over and over again. Dude, I seriously hope that you never encounter a dangerous REAL life situation because you will find yourself hurt badly. I feel for the kids that you are teaching as well, they are being led into a false sense of security when it comes to protecting themselves. I have a problem with arts like these and people like you, you train in your little secret art and secret camps practicing your secret death touches and have deemed yourself too dangerous for society and other martial arts. Tournaments are a waste of time? Dude, how do you know how good you are or could be unless you test your knowledge of your "art" against other practitioners. They don't have a walking on hot coals contest or make believe stern chi talking scare your attackers away contest? So practicing with no one that can truly test your abilities is what you are after at your little camps? Bam, my point about contributing to society is that your art contributes nothing because it has nothing to offer when it comes to REAL self defense and controlling attackers in any form of battle. People are not walking around with ninja stars and swords and using nunchuks in modern society. Unless you study a REAL effective martial arts system you will remain delusional. Just open your mind a little, there is a whole world of really effective martial arts out there.

 

[Bam]

You really are not making much of a point though. It is more like a joke you keep making over and over again. Dude, I seriously hope that you never encounter a dangerous REAL life situation because you will find yourself hurt badly. I feel for the kids that you are teaching as well, they are being led into a false sense of security when it comes to protecting themselves. I have a problem with arts like these and people like you, you train in your little secret art 1)THE ART IS NOT SECRET

and secret camps 2) THE CAMPS ARE NOY SECRET

practicing your secret death touches 3) WHO SAID THAT WE USE SECRET DEATH TOUCHES?

and have deemed yourself too dangerous for society and other martial arts.
4) NO ONE I KNOW EVER SAID THAT

Tournaments are a waste of time? 5) WE CONSIDER THAT UNNECESSARY

Dude, how do you know how good you are or could be unless you test your knowledge of your "art" against other practitioners.

6) THATS THE POINT, WE ARE NOT INTRERESED IN "COMPARING OURSELVES" TO OTHERS. WE TRAIN TO BETTER OURSELVES PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY.

They don't have a walking on hot coals contest or make believe stern chi talking scare your attackers away contest?

7) WHO CARES WHAT "THEY" DO.

So practicing with no one that can truly test your abilities is what you are after at your little camps?

8) YOU ARE TOO FUNNY WITH YOUR "LITTLE" COMENTS AS IF THAT MAKING YOU FEEL "BIGGER".

Bam, my point about contributing to society is that your art contributes nothing because it has nothing to offer when it comes to REAL self defense and controlling attackers in any form of battle.


9) AGAIN YOU MIS-UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ART IS AND WHAT TEQNIQUES WE TRAIN WITH.

People are not walking around with ninja stars and swords and using nunchuks in modern society.

10) YES BUT A BASEBALL BAT WITH NAILS IN IT (used like a sword) IS A FAVORITE OF GANG MEMBERS AND TRAINING WITH THESE WEAPONS ALSO TRAINS ONE IN THE METHODS TO DEFEND AGAINST ONE.

Unless you study a REAL effective martial arts system you will remain delusional.

11) ITS AS "REAL" AS IT GETS.

Just open your mind a little

12) MY MIND IS ALWAYS OPEN, I NEVER BELITTLED YOUR ART OR ANY OTHERS AS YOU SEEM INTERESTED IN DOING.

there is a whole world of really effective martial arts out there.

AND I STUDY THE EFFECTIVE ONE OF MY CHOICE

 

[Bam]

Here is a further note:

I find it humorous that in these forums many of you find it necessary to bad mouth each other instead of just talking about your arts and styles.

This thread was simply about Ninjutsu and if you don't know about Ninjutsu or don't like it that is fine. However many of you feel the need to bash each others arts and then to even start bashing the person posting.

This is silly and to make it even worse is the fact that you haver no personal knowledge of the person you are bashing.

In this case many of you have made a varirety of silly attemps at bashing me because I study Ninjutsu and other "Spiritual" aspects of Martial arts and because I do not attend Tournements. This is OK if that makes you feel better but from my point of view it is just silly.

You have no knowledge of me, my size, my abilities, or what I have expirenced in this lifetime.

The fact of the matter is that I worked in law enforcment for many years and specialized in gang issues in the Bay Area of California. I can tell you that I not only "Survived" the streats but dealt with some very dangerous situations. I have been cut with a knife and almost killed by a male on PCP and survived those incidents as well as others. I have seen people die in front of my eyes from gang related fights and I have saved a couple of lives as well. I think I have a pretty good idea of what it takes to make it on the street.

I think those of you who insist on bashing others without any knowledge of the other person are the ones that need to open up your minds a little.

Note: This is not aimed at any one in particular, And there some of you out there posting very responsibly. Keep up the good work.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

I don't need to know you to be able to assess that your art is not very effective.

I don't need to belittle your art with comments to make me feel better, I am an accomplished ATHLETE. I am just making a point through MY studies of several martial arts including ninjiutsu.

I totally agree with you about training in an art to better yourself spiritually and mentally, but tournaments are a good way to test your growth spiritually, mentally and physically. Tournaments are not comparing yourself to others, it is not a bodybuilding contest. They are a great way to test your growth. That is all I am saying.

Please go ahead and belittle any of the martial arts I have studied or currently study, they are all tried and PROVEN effective arts.

I don't feel like I am attacking you, I am attacking the effectiveness of your art is all. If you happen to take that as an insult than that is your problem.

If you do not think I am posting "responsibly" because I am not emailing you and kissing your ass with apoligies over comments made about your art then you need to do some seroius soul searching over whose mind it is that is limited in this DISCUSSION.