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Cuts, I'd like to see how you're going to stack your cycle.
Are you guys trying to proove something. Get of cuts back will ya.
CUTS, I don't know enough about your situation to judge or applause you. If you like we can take it to email.
I know for myself it can be more than a bitch to loose excess weight.
All of my childhood I was fat. Now I'm allways getting comments from girls I just meet that I'm a "good-looker".
Allthough I'm not where I want to be yet.
Don't be discuraged by the flaming, this thread has come in to. You can acheive what you want. just be patient.
Please email me if you want to talk future goals, maybe we can help each other in 'pep-talking' for acheving what we want.
MICHLDAV.
CUTS, I don't know enough about your situation to judge or applause you. If you like we can take it to email.
I know for myself it can be more than a bitch to loose excess weight.
All of my childhood I was fat. Now I'm allways getting comments from girls I just meet that I'm a "good-looker".
Allthough I'm not where I want to be yet.
Don't be discuraged by the flaming, this thread has come in to. You can acheive what you want. just be patient.
Please email me if you want to talk future goals, maybe we can help each other in 'pep-talking' for acheving what we want.
MICHLDAV.
BigWh1tey
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what foods are you using as carbs ??? my general rules for dieting are this :
1) eliminate all dairy
2) little to no simple sugar ( whatever you get in sauces , or the little bit in low carbs bars )
3) eliminate wheat (no wheat pasta, bread, etc. ) ( occasional cream of wheat )
4) Brown rice, Yams, plain oatmeal, (occasional rice pasta) . No white potatoes. No white rice.
5) no fruit
6) as many green veggies as you can take at every meal . ( small amounts of corn , little/no carrots)
7) red meat 3x week ( flank steak , buffalo , ground london broil, all drained and washed after cooking)
8) egg whites , chicken breasts, turkey breast, tuna steaks, solid white albacore in H20 , whey powder ( no cheap high solids etc )
9) 1 cheat meal every 10 days
10) snacks : natural peanut butter ( 1x eod ) , pickles (as desired ), crysal light slushies ( they fucking rock), diet soda , plain rice cakes
11) 2+ gallons of H20 day
12) coffee in abundance ( vivarin before workouts) ( i dont take eca , its fucks with my prostate)
cardio : minimum 50 minute sessions 4-5x week ( 60-70% of my MHR)
weights: ( high volume , high reps ) 6 days week.
as far as your chemical scheme i would probably try something more like :
Prop 100mg/eod ( or prop/enan 2x week( aratest or something) , winnyV 50 mg/day, Prov 50mg/ed. Primo 400-600 week . I would avoid the T4 ( if you insist maybe try Tricana). If you like the clen try it in 2 week stints , with a ECA in between.
CARDIO BURNS FAT !!! LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT .
1) eliminate all dairy
2) little to no simple sugar ( whatever you get in sauces , or the little bit in low carbs bars )
3) eliminate wheat (no wheat pasta, bread, etc. ) ( occasional cream of wheat )
4) Brown rice, Yams, plain oatmeal, (occasional rice pasta) . No white potatoes. No white rice.
5) no fruit
6) as many green veggies as you can take at every meal . ( small amounts of corn , little/no carrots)
7) red meat 3x week ( flank steak , buffalo , ground london broil, all drained and washed after cooking)
8) egg whites , chicken breasts, turkey breast, tuna steaks, solid white albacore in H20 , whey powder ( no cheap high solids etc )
9) 1 cheat meal every 10 days
10) snacks : natural peanut butter ( 1x eod ) , pickles (as desired ), crysal light slushies ( they fucking rock), diet soda , plain rice cakes
11) 2+ gallons of H20 day
12) coffee in abundance ( vivarin before workouts) ( i dont take eca , its fucks with my prostate)
cardio : minimum 50 minute sessions 4-5x week ( 60-70% of my MHR)
weights: ( high volume , high reps ) 6 days week.
as far as your chemical scheme i would probably try something more like :
Prop 100mg/eod ( or prop/enan 2x week( aratest or something) , winnyV 50 mg/day, Prov 50mg/ed. Primo 400-600 week . I would avoid the T4 ( if you insist maybe try Tricana). If you like the clen try it in 2 week stints , with a ECA in between.
CARDIO BURNS FAT !!! LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT .
JUSTINCREDBOL
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OK HERE LET'S PAMPER HIM... THIRD TIMES A CHARM BUDDY..... Is that what we should tell him? No......
If he didn't manage it the first two times somethings very wrong. It's usually diet or intensity... Serious answer. Try an Isopure zero carb shake five times a day.
... Very low calories. Use half a glass of 1 percent milk and half water. It will break up better than just milk. Whole milk will fill you up more though and you won't get hungry... And only one or two meals. Very light portions. To be honest without knowing his situation thoroughly you can't give this guy much advice... There really are alot of factors when it comes to the stomach.. Diet, exercise, eating habits, stress factors.. Too much to just guess.
If he didn't manage it the first two times somethings very wrong. It's usually diet or intensity... Serious answer. Try an Isopure zero carb shake five times a day.
... Very low calories. Use half a glass of 1 percent milk and half water. It will break up better than just milk. Whole milk will fill you up more though and you won't get hungry... And only one or two meals. Very light portions. To be honest without knowing his situation thoroughly you can't give this guy much advice... There really are alot of factors when it comes to the stomach.. Diet, exercise, eating habits, stress factors.. Too much to just guess.
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Cuts
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Guards, Espanola, Justincredbol:
I apoligize if I've been kinda whiny this past week, I just came off a really shitty DNP cycle... hot, sweaty, I was just feeling and looking like hell. B/c I was feeling so bad, I binged on carbs for a couple days and that worsened things b/c it negated any benefits I would have gotten from the cycle... I think I actually gained some fat. Anyway, I'm not the type of guy to make excuses or place blame elsewhere. I take full responsibility for my actions and their results. But the truth of the matter is, when you can only eat 150g of protein per day, it makes bodybuilding success quite a bit tougher... believe me. I'd love to cut carbs and eat 250g/day of protein like you guys, but I just don't have that option. Another thing... I don't come from an athletic background... I don't think I have the best genes for bodybuilding. Not an excuse. Just a fact. I'm not quitting though HELL NO. Ya'll are right in saying that AS are not Magic and it takes hard work and discipline. I'm gonna give it my best this time.
P.S. It would be real easy for me to lie about my stats on this board (I'm sure a lot of guys' #s are inflated here), but that's not my style. I appreciate ya'lls criticism... it's just the kind of kick-in-the-ass I need!
I apoligize if I've been kinda whiny this past week, I just came off a really shitty DNP cycle... hot, sweaty, I was just feeling and looking like hell. B/c I was feeling so bad, I binged on carbs for a couple days and that worsened things b/c it negated any benefits I would have gotten from the cycle... I think I actually gained some fat. Anyway, I'm not the type of guy to make excuses or place blame elsewhere. I take full responsibility for my actions and their results. But the truth of the matter is, when you can only eat 150g of protein per day, it makes bodybuilding success quite a bit tougher... believe me. I'd love to cut carbs and eat 250g/day of protein like you guys, but I just don't have that option. Another thing... I don't come from an athletic background... I don't think I have the best genes for bodybuilding. Not an excuse. Just a fact. I'm not quitting though HELL NO. Ya'll are right in saying that AS are not Magic and it takes hard work and discipline. I'm gonna give it my best this time.
P.S. It would be real easy for me to lie about my stats on this board (I'm sure a lot of guys' #s are inflated here), but that's not my style. I appreciate ya'lls criticism... it's just the kind of kick-in-the-ass I need!
JUSTINCREDBOL
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Bro do you have 150 pounds of muscle on your body? no? Then you're ok with eating that much protein I would think.....
To be honest, I did not read all of his post, or any of the replies that anyone had given him. But it seems to me that is a VERY complicated cycle. What not stick with the basics? You know the KISS method? Keep It Short & Simple. I would do a cycle of Susp/Winny 100mg every day with Armidex. That is a true reflection of your diet (the Susp/Winny) Many people I know use it for contest prep. The so-called water bloat is just an indictation of your poor diet or lack of water intake.
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Cuts
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Thank MICHLDAV
I appreciate your help bro. No more DNP for me for a while... next WINTER maybe... just too damn hot now. I think you might be right about the D-bol... I'll probably cut that out, keep the rest. How'd you lose all that baby fat?
MICHLDAV said:
I appreciate your help bro. No more DNP for me for a while... next WINTER maybe... just too damn hot now. I think you might be right about the D-bol... I'll probably cut that out, keep the rest. How'd you lose all that baby fat?
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Cuts
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What would you recommend?
How's this look? :
grams x cal/g = cal = %ofcal/day
Protein - 150 x 4 = 600 = 24%
Carbs - 200 x 4 = 800 = 32%
Fat - 120 x 9 = 1100 = 44%
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2500 cal/day
120 g of fat/day sounds kind of scary, but I think your idea does make sense. Low carbs=low insulin=low fat production. What do you think?
kingjohn said:
How's this look? :
grams x cal/g = cal = %ofcal/day
Protein - 150 x 4 = 600 = 24%
Carbs - 200 x 4 = 800 = 32%
Fat - 120 x 9 = 1100 = 44%
------
2500 cal/day
120 g of fat/day sounds kind of scary, but I think your idea does make sense. Low carbs=low insulin=low fat production. What do you think?
