My 3rd attempt at a six-pack

[Cuts]

Thanks bro

I would up the Sust to 500mg/week and the Eq to 300-400mg/week. I would also take the Winny ED 25-50mg/Day would be a good dose, if you don't want to inject ED then just drink it. Like the other have said make sure your diet is perfect and your should get that 6 you are looking for. E-Mail or PM me anytime if you need any help. I was very overweight as a child and in my early teens. Best of luck my friend!

M18

Mustang man, I think you're one of the most helpful guys on this whole board. How'd you lose all that baby fat?

 

[Cuts]

Holy shit!

what foods are you using as carbs ??? my general rules for dieting are this :
1) eliminate all dairy
2) little to no simple sugar ( whatever you get in sauces , or the little bit in low carbs bars )
3) eliminate wheat (no wheat pasta, bread, etc. ) ( occasional cream of wheat )
4) Brown rice, Yams, plain oatmeal, (occasional rice pasta) . No white potatoes. No white rice.
5) no fruit
6) as many green veggies as you can take at every meal . ( small amounts of corn , little/no carrots)
7) red meat 3x week ( flank steak , buffalo , ground london broil, all drained and washed after cooking)
8) egg whites , chicken breasts, turkey breast, tuna steaks, solid white albacore in H20 , whey powder ( no cheap high solids etc )
9) 1 cheat meal every 10 days
10) snacks : natural peanut butter ( 1x eod ) , pickles (as desired ), crysal light slushies ( they fucking rock), diet soda , plain rice cakes
11) 2+ gallons of H20 day
12) coffee in abundance ( vivarin before workouts) ( i dont take eca , its fucks with my prostate)

CARDIO BURNS FAT !!! LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT .

Then what DO you eat man? The plan looks good bro. Tough, but good. I'm definitely gonna incorporate those dieting tips into my program. Thanks.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Cuts, It took about 1 year to loose the majority of the fat I was carrying at the time. It was pretty hard for me as I loved to eat crap, be lazy and watch T.V. I started to watch my diet and hit cardio 6 days a week for about 25-30 min. I did that for about 1 month and started to like my results. I was eating about 100 carbs a day, about 75 grams of fat and about 250 grams of Protein, I weighed about 230 and my body fat was high a hell. I started to use an E/C/A stack in the morning when I did cardio and in the afternoon before I went to lift. I did not eat any carbs after 5:00pm at night as well. I ate food like Chicken, Tuna, Fish, Turkey, Rice, Oatmeal, Lean red meats, Protein shakes, Peanuts, cheese, egg whites, and basically anything with low carbs and high protein. That is basically how I lodt the majority of my weight, and I did not use any gear(I wish I did as I lost a lot of muscle as well) I would hate to be fat again and I just finished my Bulk cycle and feel ssssoo bloated, I can't wait to start cuting again. If you need any help you can e-mail or PM me anytime. Hope this helps, Best of luck my friend!

M18

 

[Cuts]

I was eating about 100 carbs a day, about 75 grams of fat and about 250 grams of Protein
M18

Good job Mustang. How did you feel when you cut carbs that low? I always start to feel kinda shitty whenever I cut carbs to those low levels. Was eating like this tough? Cutting out fat isn't too bad, but cutting out carbs...

 

[dahmer]

Mustang 18 couldn't have said it any better. More drugs!!! If you have cycled before that amount you are planning on using would be a waste of time. Up the drugs, eat well, sleep well and train hard. It's not just the drugs that do it all.

 

[solidspine]

Cuts,

I would drop the d-bol for this cycle, protein intake or not with what you plan, your going to lose FAT,

STICK TO IT AND GOOD LUCK!

 

[Namu]

Cuts I too was a very chubby child. The end of my junior year I was 5'9" and about 250lbs. A very good offensive lineman but a very big eyesore.
Now after learning alot the next year I spent losing weight and ended up losing over 110lbs. But to tell you the honest truth there was not special diet or magic pill. It is simple. You eat less than what your body burns. That is the clue. If you eat 2000 calories of complete carbohydrates and your body is burning 2500 calories with all of the cardio then you will still lose weight. Just keep it simple and take it a day at a time.
Here is my advice to you:
Do cardio for 5-6 times a week for 30-45 minutes.
Eliminate all candy and simple sugars
Eat whole foods like vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc
Try to eliminate the amount or red meat in the week to once.
Eat rough grains and whole carbs. Meaning, eat whole wheat bread, yams, oatmeal, brown rice.
Eat poultry (white meat). Eat alot of chicken, tuna, and fish. Just make sure to watch the amounts of sauces you put on. The sauce (like may) is what kills the healthy diet,
Here are just a few steps. If you would like to have more than drop me some mail and I would love to help. i know where you are and how it feels, just make sure to keep your head up and keep on pushin. The time will come.
As for the diet you posted. that can be a start. Just make sure to use some flax and natural peanut butter for your fat. Do not be afraid of fat, it actually helps you burn fat!!!!!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Cuts, When I cut the carbs to 100 a day I felt a little more tired then usual and did not want to train that hard but the E/C/A helped that little problem I have gone as low as 25-35 carbs a day but after about a week or two I could not handle it and upped them a bit.

M18

 

[MICHLDAV]

"This is how we do it..."

CUTS bro, I started to laugh when I read mustan_18 & namu's posts. My story is more or less the same, only difference is that in my country eca is forbidden, and I took ephedrine hcl and did cardio(running) 4-6 times a week in the mornings. I lost a lot of muscle etc etc. etc.
In the end, the only sideeffect I got from being very fat as a child is the scare of comming fat again. I'm sure that I'm balancing on a thin line between eating disorder and normal behavior(on the right side of the line I might add, hehe). Don't be scared by this statement, it's a fact. I'm not talking the typical anorex..etc. But my dedication to this 'sport' of building my body is kind of sick, just a fact that I'm aware of.(wich I'm sure many bros on this board can agree with having as well).
If you wan't to talk:diet, supps., training, mentality, consistency, etc. etc. etc. let me know, just like the other good bros. I really suggest you take one or all of us up on this offer, it's really good to have someone to share your goals with, and get some input from.
MICHLDAV.

 

[noobie]

well..

I havent started to use any roids *yet, but right now i have a six pack.. it may not be the mother of all six packs, but I still got one...

I've been working out (serious training) for about 2 years now, clean and one of the emphasises of my workouts have been abs... and its funny, u are saying u cant get a six pack, and ya dont say nothing about your ab workout.

As everyone on here has written, cardio is going to lose the fat. Run outside instead of on the treadmill, personally i found that does more..

and of course, your ab workout.. you wont see your abs start to show, no matter how little fat you have, if they dont have some size to them. I would like to hear what you do for this portion of the workout and how often you do it. It will not give you a six pack with your bodyfat, but you will be able to see progress much better.

But from the 20% bodyfat, I suppose thats your problem, and I dont think steroids is going to cure that by itself.

Now, I would suggest if the six pack really is important, you emphasize more fat burning, even if it is at the expense of some muscle. If you have most of your fat around your stomach, it is going to take time, no matter what you do.

And if u eat less, your body starts burning the fat b/c it has nothing else to burn, plain and simple.

I guess those are the most basic things I can think of..
Good luck to you;