Too heavy for a first cycle?

[JUICEMAN]

Never done juice before, been training for years though. Sust/500 week, Eq/375 week, for 8 weeks.
Dealer also threw in 1000 mgs Dbol for free, should I add this too, or too much for first cycle? Looking for 25-35 lbs. mass. What will be the difference in gains with or without d bol? Any help will be appreciated.

19 yo
5'9"
170
10-12 BF%

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I would go ahead and throw the D-Bol in there for the first 4-5 weeks to use it as a kick start to your cycle. 25-30mg/Day would be a good dose. If you have a good diet I think you have a chance to reach your goals. Happy Growing

M18

 

[Furious1]

I agree with mustang, but I would run the eq for another 2 weeks to help harden up the gains.

week 1-4 25 - 30mg dbol/day
week 1-8 500mg sus/week
week 1-10 300 - 400mg eq/week

And don't forget the clomid.

week 12 50mg clomid/day
week 13 - 14 25mg clomid/day

 

[serge]

throw in the dboll, it will get you going in the matter of days

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Or test alone for 4 weeeks than eq for 4 weeks.

Could you explain the reason for this ? You are obviously very knowledgable so I would like your opinion. Eq takes about 3-4 weeks to take fully affect and so do most Tests unless you are using a fast acting one such as Phenyl Prop or Prop so if you use both the Test and Eq for 4 weeks each you would be stopping them right when they are starting to really kick in. Please correct me if I miss understand what you said.

M18

 

[imprint516]

MUSTANG IM STARTING TO THINK WE ARE RUNNING THIS BOARD. LOL. HOW IS EVERYTHING GOIN MAN?.......JUICEMAN ..EAT EAT EAT KEEP PROTEIN HIGH SLEEP A LOT AND TRAIN HARD DAMMITT!!!!!!! AND YOU WILL REACH YOUR GOALS. LOOKS TO BE A VERY GOOD CYCLE.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Hey Imprint, I am doin alright, you ? I just spent my last day of the see food diet and am stuffed. Tommorow I hit the gym for chest and start dieting

M18

 

[imprint516]

IM DOING WELL. BE CAREFUL WITH THAT DIET. WATCH THE CARBS DO NOT GO TOO LOW. HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON DIETING?

 

[ultragainz]

good cycle good luck

 

[MUSTANG_18]

MY diet looks like this
7:00am
3 scoops Whey Protein
Oatmeal
Cals=530 Fat=8.5 Protein=74 Carbs=43.5

9:30am
Designer Protein bar
Cals=260 Fat=4.5 Protein=30 Carbs=6

11:30am
Myoplex
2chicken breasts
Cals= 600 Fat= 10 Protein=98.2 Carbs= 24

2:30pm
protein shake

4:00pm
Workout
Post workout
Carb Fuel Drink
3 scoops Whey Protein
Cals=650 Fat=4.5 Protein=66 Carbs=87.5

6:00pm
1 cup rice
2 chicken breasts
Cals=525 Fat=8.4 Protein=60.2 Carbs=45

8:00pm
3 scopps Whey Protein
Cals=330 Fat=4.5 Protein=66 Carbs=7.5


10:00pm=
Same as 8:00pm

Total food intake
Cals=3220
Fat=45.4
Protein=460.4
Carbs=220
Most of te carbs come in the morning and right after my workout

M18