yeah.... i gave into the idea that its hard to get lean on dairy... not sure if its true or not, but i've gotten a lot leaner since i've taken it out (mind you there were a lot of changes made to my diet around the same time, so this is a combo effect)
two things i do know
1) diets high in soy are linked to the near absense of menopause in oriental cultures (they don't have a word for menopause in many oritental languages since it happens so rarely)
2) after taking milk (dairy) out of my diet, it has been really hard to get it back in... (bloating, stomach cramps ect). i think, absence of dairy makes one slightly lactose intolerant... it will take me awhile to ease it back into my diet once i decide to do this...