When was it official that Dbol was only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

[Texas Ranger]

i liked my dbol only cycle. people who say dbol only cycles don't work are retarded. its anabolic and androgenic. IT BUILDS MUSCLE. its all about PCT.

Not trying to hijack, but Eviction you are lookin' PRETTY ripped these days!! What are you using if you don't mind me asking??

 

[MrRTTB]

hmm...interesting post..I'm running anavar at 40mg ED and I think I might lower the dose to 30mg and add some 20mg dbol with this shit for the remaining 12 weeks + test + EQ. As I do check all my values every 5-6:th week I can be seen as the perfect labrat for ths Or wait, 30mg would be better btw, 5mg every 3-4 hours

 

[UA_Iron]

i have alot of dbol....hmmm

I am in the same boat...I couldnt resist it either.

 

[Excidium28]

Try takin drol for 8-10 weeks at 50mg a day.... WOOO!

 

[junk]

Yup.

17AA is 17AA, regardless of which oral we are talkin' bout.

DIV

Actually, if my memory is still good, there is some evidance showing Anavar to be quite metabolized by the kidneys, thus not elevating liver enzymes as much as other substances like winny (which is the worest in my experience).

I used papervar at 80mg a day for 8 weeks followed by 4 weeks at 50mg. Yes, I took Tyler's and Milk Thistle. Liver enzymes didn't even move a bit.

 

[junk]

You can achieve excellent results on a Dbol only cycle.

30-40 mgs ED for a total of 8-12 along with 1 mg Arimidex ED or 0.5 Arimidex ED in combination with 10 mgs Nolvadex ED.

Ideally, a shorter 8 week cycle such as 30-40 mgs Dbol ED and 300-400 mgs Deca EW for example should yeild similar results.

Jenetic

Good post.

I agree. I also feel the liver damage done by 17AA steroids and dbol in particular is over estimated. Though it is an individual thing and some individuals may react with much elevated enzymes, most would not.
Assuming of course liver protectants are taken.

Had great results with Tyler's Liver Detox 6 caps a day along with LIV-52 4 caps a day and 3 caps a day of milk thistle. As I stated in previous post. Liver enzymes stayed the same towards end of cycle as they were before.
One thing though, I would do regular GPT, GOT and particularely GGT
tests every several weeks on any 17AA steroid depanding on dosage. better safe than sorry.

Sorry no K "You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Jenetic again."

 

[junk]

i liked my dbol only cycle. people who say dbol only cycles don't work are retarded. its anabolic and androgenic. IT BUILDS MUSCLE. its all about PCT.

True,
Dbols are anabolic and androgenic. Given these facts dbol will build muscle. The water gain will go away and is not considered muscle. but there is no reason dbol will yield less mass than other steroids would. I may give that 8-12 weeks a try, doing liver tests every 3-4 weeks and post them here.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Well, dbol was very popular between old skewl guys. The difference was in the dosage. They used lower dosages for long periods of time. Those dudes now are on their late 50's and 60's and seem to be very healthy....

 

[Jenetic]

jenetic can you post up a liver protection cycle like what supps and there dosages.

thanks

Tyler's Liver Detox or Liver Guard by Source Naturals @ 4-10 tabs ED
ALA/R-ALA @ 600-2000 mgs ED

Jenetic

 

[small but working on it]

Dbol for 12 weeks straight won't do anything but fuck you up! After 4 weeks dbol loses it effects so if you want to do 12 weeks of dbol...then you would want to cycle it for 4 weeks. Take at least 4-5 weeks (6-8 weeks is even better) off then cycle it for another 4 weeks.

Seems we have a bit of a difference in opinion? Jenetic do you have any response to this? Hammertime, is it in fact true that after 4 wks dbol loses its effects? I have read where several bros on here use it for the first 6 weeks at 30mg daily? What is up? I would like to hear from Jenetic about this too?