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When was it official that Dbol was only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

The key here guys is to get blood work done! If after using DBol for 4-6 weeks your liver enzymes, cholesterol values and bp etc are elevated then it's perhaps not a good idea to continue for 12 weeks+! This is largely common sense. Don't forget to get bloodwork done before you start to establish some sort of base values. All I can tell you is that through my experience of using orals, DBol included, over long durations, they have had virtually no negative impact on my bloodwork. Bear in mind that I do take some good liver sups and indeed lots of other health sups.
 
Jenetic, another question kind of off topic. What cycle would you recommend to an experienced bodybuilder(5-10+ years of training)that was seeking above-average growth on their First Cycle??
 
TR,

Please don't take this the wrong way but I'm not further commenting on this guys AAS history, training and nutrition as it is irrelevant unless you are on that type of competitive level. No disrepsect intended but there are a variety of reasons why I choose not to.

In regards to your second question, testosterone only for a first cycle regardless. Above average growth would mean fine tuning his nutrition and training.

Let's stick to the subject. PM on non thread related questions.

Jenetic
 
Jenetic said:
TR,

Please don't take this the wrong way but I'm not further commenting on this guys AAS history, training and nutrition as it is irrelevant unless you are on that type of competitive level. No disrepsect intended but there are a variety of reasons why I choose not to.

In regards to your second question, testosterone only for a first cycle regardless. Above average growth would mean fine tuning his nutrition and training.

Let's stick to the subject. PM on non thread related questions.

Jenetic
Jenetic, no disrepect taken, bro. :D I TOTALLY respect you're reasoning to keep the guy's info private. I'll PM you later....TR
 
Jenetic said:
I've just recently contacted someone who is on 200 mgs ED. He is in his 15th week. As of last week, AST:30 ALT:32 BP:128/76. Not too bad in my opinion.

Jenetic



yes, but how were the values that really matter.....LIPIDS????
 
Jenetic said:
He doesn't use Arimidex and only uses Nolvadex post cycle. He is currently using 25 mgs Aromasin ED.

Jenetic

Holly Criest 200mg of dbols a day for 15 weeks. That's the highest
dosage I've ever heard of anyone taking.. And for 15 weeks?? :eek2: and I thought I was hardcore with 100mg for 4 weeks. :D

BTW: I was also taking about 25mg Aromasin (one tab) ED or EOD, and I still got some gyno signs.. I guess with 200mg of dbols 50mg of Aromasin a day maybe for sensitive individuals.

Regardless, for the name of science, I would consider taking 150mg of DBOLS ED and make Liver enzymes tests every 1-2 weeks.
 
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