When was it official that Dbol was only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

[hammertime30]

I have an old friend, and by old I mean old(!) a life long juicer in NYC who started in his mid 20s and is now 74. He says that back in the 70's and 80's, his doc would prescribe him and his buddies DBol and it was not uncommon for them to stay on 50mg ed for 6 months plus, and in some cases years at a time.

Jenetic has raised an issue here that's been on my mind somewhat too.

The so called "instant gains" are mostly in the form of water retention (with a little strength,) and I have found that my best gains through DBol have been through using over 8 weeks plus. I have often used orals over long durations, along with liver protectants which include ALA, R-ALA, Liver Care by Himmalaya Healthcare and Tyler's Detoxication factors and my liver values are excellent, even when drinking like a fish.

It is important to take your armidex / aromasin etc to keep off the water retention. My blood pressure always directly correlates to the amount of water I am holding so I keep a close eye on this and even use a little spironalactone if necessary. The 10mg Nolva ed suggested my Jenetic is a good idea to keep your HDL and LDL in check, especially seeing as armidex can have a slight negative impact on cholesterol.

I too feel the notion of just using DBol to "jumpstart" a cycle is no more than an idea. It's not necessarily a bad idea, but certainly not the only way to use DBol!


DMI

That's probably true to some extent, however the oldies that I read up on, cycled dbol for only 7 weeks at a time and then took 6-8 weeks off. They did this 3 times a year and looked great....No injections, just DBOL!

 

[hammertime30]

Anywhere from 8-12 weeks on average.

Jenetic

Right now I'm recycling dbol for another 4 weeks for I feel that 8-12 weeks is way too long to ride. in 12 weeks you can do 2 cycles of dbol and not have the side effects from the long term usage.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

That's probably true to some extent, however the oldies that I read up on, cycled dbol for only 7 weeks at a time and then took 6-8 weeks off. They did this 3 times a year and looked great....No injections, just DBOL!

That varies alot, but also try to keep in mind they knew how to train as well. Most guys today do routines while on heavy doses that are laughable at best.

 

[BobbyJenious]

That varies alot, but also try to keep in mind they knew how to train as well. Most guys today do routines while on heavy doses that are laughable at best.

This is true. Most people these day are straying away from the basic foundations of bodybuilding (hard but smart training, proper nutriotion, and rest) and depending on the drugs to do all the work, AND yield results over night. AAS only work in conjunction with ball busting dedication.

 

[DMI]

I use Tyler's, ALA and vitamin E. I've used Liver Care from Himmalaya too and I liked it.

 

[eviction]

i liked my dbol only cycle. people who say dbol only cycles don't work are retarded. its anabolic and androgenic. IT BUILDS MUSCLE. its all about PCT.

 

[Guvna]

Yup.

17AA is 17AA, regardless of which oral we are talkin' bout.

DIV

you are wrong, sorry.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i have alot of dbol....hmmm

 

[hammertime30]

That varies alot, but also try to keep in mind they knew how to train as well. Most guys today do routines while on heavy doses that are laughable at best.

Definitely...I agree to that!

 

[BobbyJenious]

Eviction, what did your Dbol only cycle look like??