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The last vestige of civilized Britain has fallen away - the unarmed British "Bobbie." For 170 years, British police functioned without guns. Since their founding by Sir Robert Peel in 1829, Bobbies walked their beats armed only with their nightsticks. Until the last few years of these 17 decades, the British public was armed. Now it is the other way around. The police have guns, and the law-abiding public doesn't. What happened?

Britain has the most severe "gun control" laws in the world. Not even members of the British Olympic Shooting Team are allowed pistols. The British are reduced to registered single- and double-barreled shotguns, and the maximum permitted shell load is birdshot.

According to the arguments of gun-control advocates, Britain should be safe and crime free. But, alas, violent crime and robberies have skyrocketed. Gunfights between rival immigrant gangs caused the revolution in British policing. In Robin Hood's Nottinghamshire, constables now patrol in pairs armed with semi-automatic pistols. They are backed up by armed-response vehicles stocked with submachine guns.

If gun control makes society safe, why was it necessary to overthrow British police tradition, arm police with semiautomatic weapons and provide machinegun backup? As a test case in gun control, Britain proves it to be a total failure. The result is exactly the one predicted by the National Rifle Association: "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have guns."

In Britain, a man's home may be his castle where the king of England cannot enter without a warrant, but robbers and rapists enter at will. It is easier and less risky for a criminal to have his way with a victim in the privacy of the victim's home than in public. Gun control has made home invasion safe for criminals.

In the United States, experts have proven time and again that widespread gun ownership is a deterrent to crime and prevents between 1 million and 3 million criminal acts each year. Gun ownership saves numerous lives and foils large numbers of rapes and robberies. Yet, gun controllers persist in their attempts to disarm the public.

A person can't help but wonder whether gun-control advocates are uninformed fools or have a secret agenda. Once gun control enters politics, the lying makes even Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton blush. As the 20th century came to a close, Canadian Justice Minister Allan Rock fended off criticisms of a gun-registration bill his government was pushing by giving assurances that "there is no reason to confiscate legally owned firearms."

Within 10 months of the minister's assurances, 553,000 legally registered handguns were confiscated. Now, rifles and shotguns must be licensed and registered. Having learned that the only purpose of registration is to tell the government where the guns are, compliance has collapsed. Large numbers of law-abiding Canadians prefer to risk five years in prison than to register their guns.

Gun-control laws dramatically reduce public safety and turn law-abiding citizens into law-breakers. Licensing and registration increase crime by devoting police resources to paperwork. Gun-registration databases cannot prevent crimes or aid in their solving, because criminals do not register their guns.

The people most dangerous to the public are not on the FBI's "Most Wanted List." Far more dangerous to our safety than criminals are gun-control extremists like New York Democratic Sens. Charles Schumer and Clinton and Sarah Brady of Handgun Control.

These are the people who will leave us defenseless as they abrogate the Constitution and destroy respect for law, while promising an end to "gun violence."

The American Rifleman reports that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - the guys who brought us Waco - are using intimidation and threats to compile an illegal registry of gun owners. The BATF thumbs its nose at federal court decisions and continues to harass legitimate gun dealers and purchasers as if they were criminals.

We need to ask ourselves why liberals have made gun confiscation such a priority. I think it is to distract us from the disastrous results of liberal social engineering. When high school students shoot their classmates and workers open fire on their co-workers, the fault lies not in guns. It lies in the breakdown in self-control and moral integrity. The irrational shootings stem from the success of liberals in achieving
their goals.
 
Figure's released on the news today show that since the present gun control laws were introduced in Britain after Dunblane (Scotland) gun crime has risen 113% !.
Go figure.

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The article neglects to mention that the vast majority of british police do not carry guns. It has just twisted the whole situation around in order to provide support for people who want guns in the USA. The number of police carrying guns is very few.....and they usually only come out on special occasions. Also, I that think there is a big difference between a semi-automatic pistol and what most people consider to be a machine gun. The armed police over here do not carry machine guns!

As for the piece about rapists and robbers having easy access to homes......thats bullshit too. I have known only one person to be burgled.....and that was a house normally occupied by students who were on holiday. Anybody who bothers to look up the facts on rape knows that most (90%?) rapists are known to their victims. So most rapists dont need to break into homes!!! Funny how immigrants get blamed for any gun fights.....I live in Birmingham which is supposed to be full of gun crime. Alot of the problems arent due to immigrants at all.

Lets move onto the stats for gun crime in the UK. Stats can be manipulated to show whatever you care to show. I bet I could find stats issued by the home office that say the complete opposite to this report.

As I said, this is a one sided story full of sensationalist bullshit.
 
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Anybody who says you shoot to disable or injure is full of shit. No matter where you are, if a policeman/soldier pulls the trigger you bet he's going for a kill shot. Anything else is too risky.....and invariably fails.

I think you will also find that marksman exist in the brit police force. They just arent heavily publicised. They were used at the Iranian Embassy seige (85 I think) to good effect. And last time I looked your average armed american policeman wasnt a marksman.


GaryWary said:
that's not the whole picture... british police go fo a kill shot...

americans have marksman police....
 
I can assure you most cops I have known don't shoot that well......And people think Texas is a place for the Wyatt earps and full of Cowboys Geeze...
 
Weapon X said:


Gunfights between rival immigrant gangs caused the revolution in British policing.

That's it, you Brits should ban immigrants!
 
Imnotdutch said:
The armed police over here do not carry machine guns!

Yes they do. I have seen them.

Imnotdutch said:

As for the piece about rapists and robbers having easy access to homes......thats bullshit too. I have known only one person to be burgled.....and that was a house normally occupied by students who were on holiday. Anybody who bothers to look up the facts on rape knows that most (90%?) rapists are known to their victims.

You must live in a nice part of Brum then. Areas like where I am from (Salford) people get robbed all the time. There are plenty of guns about as well. Manchester didn't get branded as 'gunchester' for nothing. People also regularly get their windows put through in their cars at the lights and either have their car or possesions taken.

Do you honestly believe that your average smack head would be as hasty to rob someone if there was a good chance that they'd be carring a gun?

Burgalries, street robberies, rapes happen all the time where I live. If I could legally have a gun, I would definately get myself and my girl one. It isn't that hard to get one illegaly though.
 
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