So I was fooling around with my snatch today...

[super_rice]

i imagine the increased range of motion would be a real nice treat for your shoulders, especially once the blood flow is in there. glad it feels great.

the snatch is by far the most difficult lift to learn, but once you begin to understand the feel of it, it's like you've learned to control your body in ways you did not know you could. a general greater understanding of where your body is in space, etc.

we should be clear on kilos vs lbs i got green with jealousy when i thought you had power snatched 95kg your first time out

QS/FS:

Hehe yeah, I seem to be all over the place. The Oly's are something I want to learn, and a deload day seemed like a good time to play

My shoulders felt fantastic after this, but with these weights I wouldn't expect much strain. I was thinking that spending a few minutes practicing technique and learning the assistance stuff (BTW FS: I have read about the method of which you speak) prior to my work sets would be an excellent warmup. Then down the road I can really focus in on the Olys if I feel like it.

 

[kingkrs]

Funny you mention that, I was doing a few sets also to warm up and get aquainted with the movement. I only did 2 sets of 2 with 135 as I was not that confident doing heavier weights yet. I do want to get a set of bumper plates and build a platform so I can practice these lifts more often.

After my squats and Romainian deads I wanted to put the bar back on the pins in the rack. However there was 225 on the bar, so I decided to clean the weight up and put it back. Not happening. I got the weight about to my navel and had to ride it back down. Too tired. Funny how you have to respect the olympic lifts otherwise you can mess your shit up.

 

[dce2956]

I expected that once i learned the clean, that i could learn the snatch quickly. wow was i wrong. i tried overhead squats with just the bar , you know, just to get the "feel" of it, and fell on my ass. its such a different feeling, and i'm still having trouble with them. Plus i've always been worried about faling doing a full squat snatch and droping the bar on my head or back. that could seriously suck.

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

Honestly, I think everyone falls on their ass the first time they try to OH squat. I know I did, and the friend I taught it to also.

 

[super_rice]

bumpers are a must when you are learning. i tried to start with my run of the mill 40 dollar bar and metal plates. got to power snatching 95lbs with crappy form, wrist hurt like hell, didn't know what i was doing.

in oct i found out my university had a set of 20kg and 25kg bumpers with an OKAY (meaning is spins a least a little) barbell. so today, i snatch 95kilos, C&J 115kg @80 bwt. the equipment is important but you definately do not need an eleiko set. NOT BAD for 6 months work, though i hit a bit of a bump in feb/march and no results came (i snatched bodyweight after 2 months training).

imo, everyone should learn the snatch before clean and jerk...

the order i found most productive:

1) snatch grip power jerks
2) overhead squats
3) drop snatches/snatch balance
4) full snatch

DON'T DO ANY POWER MOVEMENTS TILL YOU CAN DO FULL MOVEMENTS

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

the order i found most productive:

1) snatch grip power jerks
2) overhead squats
3) drop snatches/snatch balance
4) full snatch

DON'T DO ANY POWER MOVEMENTS TILL YOU CAN DO FULL MOVEMENTS

Just curious why you would recommend "power jerks" first, then tell people not to do power movements?

 

[The New Guy]

...and man, do I have respect for Oly lifters! This is a humbling lift.

Basically, I'm deloading and figured that it would be a good day to warm up with overhead squats and try to snatch a bit. I'll cut to the chase and say that the bar by itself was a bit of a challenge.

I worked up to a couple doubles with 135 on OH squats and figured I'd be able to snatch with 135 as well. I started with 95 pounds and got it a couple times, but it was all over the place - off balance to one side or the other, or it'd fall forward when I was in the hole. So I tried just the bar and hit a few good ones, but I still had several that would go all crooked on me.

This should be a fun lift to learn. It made for a great warmup - felt nice and loose after 'em and it wasn't as boring as the treadmull or tons of light backsquats.

stfu faggot

 

[nelmsjer]

^ ^ ^

??? WTF ???

(This should be fun to watch.)

 

[super_rice]

i meant power movements as power snatches, power cleans, since people tend to try to use their arms and such to get the bar up, or overload it leading to this problem.

the power jerks are not really power jerks by definition... just to practice the lockout so people are comfortable with the overhead lockout position.

Just curious why you would recommend "power jerks" first, then tell people not to do power movements?

 

[super_rice]

OK, let me clarify:

I don't think beginners should be concentrating on power movements because it screws up their form and timing for hte full lifts. On the platform is where it counts.