ninjitsu

[Bam]

It is good to see that while I have been off training everyday that this thread continues. My point has been proven on here by people that practice the art already, "Ninjitsu is less a fighting art and almost more of a lifestyle. I don't know how effective it would be in the ring". My point from the beginning, if you enjoy it cool, but don't get on here talking about scaring people with your chi in a real life self-defense situation. That is not reality, walking on hot coals is not reality in self defense. That's all folks. Later, I am off to train.

You still don't get it though. The tequniques that are taught are for warfare and were designed during a very warfilled time in history. A person proficient in these schools of ninjutsu can do as well as any other form. This means that on the street in a real life situation these skills are as good if not better than other set of skills. The difference is we do not spend out time in tournaments. We train to have the defensive skills necessary.

Walking on coals is a very enlightening expirence and since you have not done that your comments about it are meaningless.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

Thanks "oh enlightned ignorant one", I have walked on hot coals and know that it has nothing to do with self defense, so I guess they are not entirely meaningless.

"We train in punches, blocks, kicks, grapleing, suwari waza (A form of judo), nerve attacks, locks etc." your quote bro, all I have to say is if you can't spell GRAPPLING then please don't act like you know what you are talking about when it comes to that subject. It is insulting to see, stick with the ninja stars please.

I get it dude, you guys practice in a very CONTROLLED enviroment, amongst friends and training partners that do not want to and are not trying to inflict SERIOUS bodily harm because they have to go home to their families and jobs when they are done training and do not want to get too hurt. Until you are able to get into an unpredictable format, like tournaments or a real street fight, to train you will never truly know the extent of your training and knowledge, your training can not prepare you for a sucker punch square in your nose my friend. The above mentioned situations are not controlled and your opponent could give 2 shits about whether or not you walk or even live agian. Their intention is to win or take something from you. Obviously, you have no experience in this area, so that would make your comments..................meaningless.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Spelling has nothing to do with skill in the area. I admit, he'd have presented any knowledge of his better had he spelled it correctly, but that's not the main concern here.

Don't jump to conclusions that they're not fighting and trying to inflict serious harm. They might have a rigorous training regimen, you don't know.

You said "oh enlightened ignorant one" to quote him, I believe? He never called himself ignorant.

His spelling is insulting? So is your attitude.

No training can prepare you for a sucker punch. That's what makes it a sucker punch. Unless you can see the future with your training, of course.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

Thanks to jumping to his defense sweetie. No need to get your panties in a bunch hon. I have to disagree though, if he knew how to spell it maybe that would mean that he has actually studied it enough to atleast know how to spell it. By way of magazine, book, video, or actual instruction would help in his knowledge of GRAPPLING. I am just stopping by an expressing my thoughts on ninjiutsu in my free time away from training and work and that is all. I have studied it, and know 2 guys that still study it. I am familiar with how the art is trained, albeit not all regimens are the same. I have to admit, as do those guys that I know that still train ninjiutsu (they continue to train because they want to finish their study of the art and enjoy each others company as training partners), that it is not at all very effective when it comes to self defense. Did you get that? They admit to the weakness of the art in self defense. I know it is hard for you guys to accept when you have been spending countless hours and money on a system that is pretty bogus. Like I said, if you enjoy training it then that is all that matters and nothing or no one else says should matter. For me personally I am not going to give any art legitamacy that has not and refuses to prove its worth in real live combat. Maybe you should go back and reread some of your boys posts tom, how he scared an armed attacker away with his chi. Give me a break!! Dude, you can ride bam's nuts and ninjiutsu's nuts all the way to the grave for all I care, it's your life and time. If my attitude offends you then go meditate and get over it sissy. I have accomplished more in martial arts and put in more time training than most of the weekend warrior/ internet mma guru guys like, mostly just yourselfs bam and tom, could ever dare to even fathom. You wanna talk about a way of life, come train with me for a month and lets see if you can REALLY handle training as a way of life. Can you handle watching everything that you put into your body 24/7? Can you handle doing roadwork EVERY morning that you wake up? Can you handle running 60 yard sprints uphill 12-20 times after being dropped off 5-10 miles away from your workout site and running to your training facility to start sprinting after a water break? Can you handle running football stadium stairs until you puke and then running 12-20 15 second sprints? Can you handle the explosive and power phase weight work you will have to put your body through 3-4 days a week? Can you handle the hours of live wrestling combat you will have to do everyday at least 5 days a week after all of this? Can you handle the hour after practice is over drilling to perfect your weaknesses so that you can become the best at what you do? Can you train injured week after week and learn how to overcome adversity? Can you handle spending your free time breaking down film of opponents weaknesses and also your own? Can you spend at least 6-8 hours a day to your way of life???? That is living your art as a way of life.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Okay, after the first three "can you handles" I decided to stop reading. You're not impressing anyone by listing any variety of things that you claim to do. I really don't give a fuck.

Wanna sling names and call me a sissy because I call out the fact that your attitude is a bit harsh? Then fuck you, prick. Ride Bam's dick? Ride Ninjitsu's dick? What a great way to get your point across.

Can I handle watching what goes into my body 24/7? Why don't you stop jumping up and assuming that I don't. For your information, I do.

I read Bam's posts. And if you read some of my responses, I called bullshit on that. At the same time, I feel the art can have its purpose. I still don't by scaring off an armed attacker with chi. I don't believe in that.

Spending countless hours and money? I don't spend either on the art, aside from the time I'm taking to respond the this post. Again, don't jump to conclusions.

You realize you can study something without knowing how to spell it. Again, I don't think that's too common, but what if he was just taught grappling and never cared to read up on it? Or he made a simple typo? Or he was a bit drunk? Seriously, shut up.

And again, you make an assumption by calling me a weekend warrior/internet mma guru. I never claimed to be any sort of guru. Also, you have no idea what my week consists of. How do you know I don't train rigorously day in, day out?

He might spell grappling incorrectly, but you just look like a damn fool when you throw all your text together in one big block. Just reading a post by you is a fuckin' eyesore. Sissy.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

hahahaha, Well, sounds like I got under you skin a little sweetheart. I could care less if you believe what I do or not sweetie. I don't need you to believe what I put my body through, or for you to understand the sacrifices it takes to be a champion, I know what I do and I am sure some hyped up little sissy like yourself couldn't hang 3 days with me without quitting every few hours after your daily ass whippings. You have been whining on this post riding bams nuts for too damn long fucktard, that is why I called you out.

i'll break my eyesore up for you so you can focus yourself a little better. I figure that you probably do not train very hard judging by the amount of time it looks like you spend on the computer. My bad, I am sure you get in a great finger workout typing all the time.

So, that is the only "can you" that you can respond to is about watching your diet. That was the easiest one dude. You stopped reading because you know you ain't got what it takes to be a top tier athlete bro. Keep talking, you get dumber with every post.

You are right, you called bs on the same thing, but I didn't run off apologizing and nut riding over an internet discussion. How angry can you get over an internet discussion. Try training more and spending less time on the computer and not taking yourself so seriously.

Yes, I know you can spend time studying something without knowing how to spell it, I just find it hard to believe. I was probably being a bit too sarcastic there, but I won't shut up about it. If you want to act like you know what you are talking about at least spell the shit right!

My invitation remains open to you tom, come train with me and let us see how long you make it.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Man, what's with calling me all these pet names? If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were coming on to me. You're really arrogant, and that's pathetic.

Yeah, fucktard's a word.

You know, one can train hard and still have plenty of time to do other things. It's 6:30 AM here, and I've got other things to do, due to refinancing of the home. Still, I train and I eat. I don't dedicate 24/7 to it because I don't want to, not because I can't. Two different reasons entirely.

"...great finger workout typing all the time..." - Heh, aww. How immature.

Yeah, I "ain't got" what it takes to be a "top tier" athlete like yourself. I get dumber, which is why I say things like "fucktard" and "ain't got" and act arrogant. Yeah. I'm a dumbass.

Jumping to another conclusion in saying that I don't take myself seriously? Come on, my man, what's with that?

You can get very angry over an internet discussion. What's the difference between a physcial verbal altercation, or one occurring online? Words are words, either way. Unless, of course, you mean to tell me you never get heated over any sort of arguement. If so, good for you, wish I could do that. You really are amazing. What, being a top tier athlete and all.

Want me to respond to the other "can you" ramblings of yours? Okay, sure.

I could handle doing road work every morning I woke up. It's called a job, right asshole? I'm sure it's not easy work, but with proper motivation and dedication anyone can do anything, and I personally have some goals in life that I'd pursue until my last breath. So yes, if I had to do this in order to provide for myself or loved ones, surely I can and would do it.

Being dropped off 5 to 10 miles? Damn, that's a pretty big range there buddy. Can I do all that? Sure, why not? It would take proper conditioning, but I never claimed myself to be an athlete, either. As long as I'm not immobile, I can do that too.

Running football stadium stairs? Pshh, let's go climb up and down mountains and trees until we fall down from exhaustion, and then force ourselves up to go sprint even if we have injuries! Come on man, seriously, mind over matter. It's all a matter of being able to push yourself. Same shit as walking on coals.

That workout you're talking about sounds fun. Kind've like Westside, which I've ran through before. So, yes, I can do that. Don't try to make it sound like a big deal because you lift 3-4 days a week. That's normal man.

Hours of live wrestling? Shit, I thought we'd be partaking in some virtual reality wrestling against Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior. And "have to"? Why's that? Either way, I could. I wouldn't want to because I don't like wrestling much, but I could. I hope you eat a shit load of calories if you do as much shit as you say. If not, you're a fool, because the body grows stronger at rest, not when working.

What the hell does the next one mean? An hour to perfect weaknesses to be the best at what I do? Hell, I guess all I do is type online. You know, working out my fingers. I can take an hour long crack at that.

Are you a fucking motivational video? Overcome adversity? Haha, yeah man. People do that every day in life. Everything is an obstacle, and every day you have to overcome something. Either that, or give up. I haven't given up, so I guess I can do this too. As for training injured, I have before. I wouldn't anymore. So you do that, I take it? Wow, and you call me dumb?

I could watch videos of my opponents and break down their technique until the cows came home man, but I just plain wouldn't want to. You make it sound like such a task. Anyone can sit around and watch something. I wouldn't do it because I have other things I want to do with my life. If you wanna dedicate every second to this shit, fine bro, but I don't. So, it's basically like comparing apples to oranges now.

Seeing as I said yes to most of those, I think I could spend 6-8 hours a day towards my way of life. Thing is, though, I have many "ways of life". Many things I partake in, study, and enjoy doing. So, every day I put 6-8 hours towards my way of life, and then some.

Smiles!

 

[digger]

MHD --

The ultimate style puts a bullet in your head from sixty feet out. When you tell us how your style defends against that, then you can belittle other people's styles all you want.

Sticky. Top of forum. Read it.

 

[Mr.HeavyDuty]

Tom, one of the weakest rebuttles I have ever read bro. Your comments are exactly what I thought that they would be, assanine.

You could, but you have other things to do. hmmmmmmmm, I think you just don't have the heart to train HARD day in and day out. Like I said tom, you know that deep down you do not have what it takes to be a superioir athlete, and that is why you spend all your time on a computer obviously. I said don't take yourself so seriously, you obviously do judging by the way that you continue to respond mindlessly. By the way, you are still on the computer. hahahaha, yea, you COULD train hard being on the computer all day.

No, what I do I don't consider a task. It is my daily routine and I love it. I have set goals for myself and intend on achieving them and that is why I am an arrogant athlete. hahaha, I think it is so funny that you guys are getting so fired up over some words. WORDS!! Go back and read my posts digger, I have said that it should not matter what anyone thinks about you or your art, if you enjoy it that is all that matters. So keep your 60 yard long sniper shots in the closet with your geritol pops. I guess I really am amazing if I can get you guys' panties in a wad and still not think much about it.

Alright, I am off to go train. I will check in with you ladies tonight to see if this thread is still bumping. This is one of the funniest parts of my day now.

Chow!!!

 

[Tom Treutlein]

Do you ever stop jumping to conclusions? It doesn't matter what you think. I don't train that way because I don't want to. I don't find it to be enjoyable, what, training 24/7.

Yeah, we wear panties. How juvenile.

60 feet isn't the same as 60 yards, asshole. Divide by 3.

My comments are assanine? How so? I could do the things you do. I don't want to. Therefore, I don't. Don't assume that "deep down" I don't have the "heart" to train "HARD". I'm online because I'm 17, it's Summer, and between my meals, fixing up the house for the parents, training and talking with friends of mine, I like to check the forums. Usually, it's to be productive and educate myself on new things. This is just a fun part of my day too.

Cute, we have something in common.