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Dosage Intervals of DBol

Since everyone seems to have their opinions set in stone, this is what I am basing the "monring only if on Dbol alone" theory:

From http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdian.htm

I suggest everyone read the whole article - not as the end all for Dbol usage, but for info that you may not have had access to before.


"A few notes there need to be made however. Not everyone should try and spread their doses out over multiple servings. First of all there is a slightly lower efficacy to take into account here as well due to two characteristics. The first being that you feed the total amount to the liver in smaller portions, yet the liver still manages to metabolize the same amount. Percentage wise that means less methandienone would make it through totally. The second would be that the peak levels aren't quite as high since no large doses are taken all at once. These two facts make it hard to recommend that just anyone take multiple doses. People who take moderate to low doses of ONLY methandrostenolone should probably opt for a single morning dose. This delivers a higher peak level and more survival of your only steroid. It also, due to the short half-life, makes the drug clear the body before the body produces its largest dose of natural testosterone, the early hours of sleep. Combined with the already mild effect at the AR, you could keep a good amount of your gains when using clomid or Nolvadex post-cycle. For those using it in conjunction with other, mostly injectable steroids, two doses seems to be the better choice, if you are taking in excess of 40 mg a day perhaps even three doses. "
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
Since everyone seems to have their opinions set in stone, this is what I am basing the "monring only if on Dbol alone" theory:

From http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdian.htm

I suggest everyone read the whole article - not as the end all for Dbol usage, but for info that you may not have had access to before.


"A few notes there need to be made however. Not everyone should try and spread their doses out over multiple servings. First of all there is a slightly lower efficacy to take into account here as well due to two characteristics. The first being that you feed the total amount to the liver in smaller portions, yet the liver still manages to metabolize the same amount. Percentage wise that means less methandienone would make it through totally. The second would be that the peak levels aren't quite as high since no large doses are taken all at once. These two facts make it hard to recommend that just anyone take multiple doses. People who take moderate to low doses of ONLY methandrostenolone should probably opt for a single morning dose. This delivers a higher peak level and more survival of your only steroid. It also, due to the short half-life, makes the drug clear the body before the body produces its largest dose of natural testosterone, the early hours of sleep. Combined with the already mild effect at the AR, you could keep a good amount of your gains when using clomid or Nolvadex post-cycle. For those using it in conjunction with other, mostly injectable steroids, two doses seems to be the better choice, if you are taking in excess of 40 mg a day perhaps even three doses. "


I dont really buy this. I have run the dbol bridge where you take it all in the morning, several times, and every time I remained shut down, and my hpta never did recover. This tells me that its affecting my body's production of test quite a bit. So keeping that in mind, if you are going to be shut down, might as well make the best gains out of it
 
needsize said:
I dont really buy this. I have run the dbol bridge where you take it all in the morning, several times, and every time I remained shut down, and my hpta never did recover. This tells me that its affecting my body's production of test quite a bit. So keeping that in mind, if you are going to be shut down, might as well make the best gains out of it

Meaning your HTPA never recovered?? Ever?? I'm confused, does DBOl shut you down personally for good because of a morning dose?? Are you at mega doses??
 
patsfan1379 said:
Meaning your HTPA never recovered?? Ever?? I'm confused, does DBOl shut you down personally for good because of a morning dose?? Are you at mega doses??

it didnt recover as long as I was running the dbol. I was only running 10-15mg first thing in the morning, and my hpta didnt recover the whole time I was running it. There really isnt such a thing as partially "shut down", if you are taking enough dbol to grow from, then you will stop producing your own test, so you might as well spread it out over the day and grow as much as you can
 
needsize said:
it didnt recover as long as I was running the dbol. I was only running 10-15mg first thing in the morning, and my hpta didnt recover the whole time I was running it. There really isnt such a thing as partially "shut down", if you are taking enough dbol to grow from, then you will stop producing your own test, so you might as well spread it out over the day and grow as much as you can

Ahhh i understand... THanks for the clari
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
Since everyone seems to have their opinions set in stone, this is what I am basing the "monring only if on Dbol alone" theory:

From http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdian.htm

I suggest everyone read the whole article - not as the end all for Dbol usage, but for info that you may not have had access to before.


"A few notes there need to be made however. Not everyone should try and spread their doses out over multiple servings. First of all there is a slightly lower efficacy to take into account here as well due to two characteristics. The first being that you feed the total amount to the liver in smaller portions, yet the liver still manages to metabolize the same amount. Percentage wise that means less methandienone would make it through totally. The second would be that the peak levels aren't quite as high since no large doses are taken all at once. These two facts make it hard to recommend that just anyone take multiple doses. People who take moderate to low doses of ONLY methandrostenolone should probably opt for a single morning dose. This delivers a higher peak level and more survival of your only steroid. It also, due to the short half-life, makes the drug clear the body before the body produces its largest dose of natural testosterone, the early hours of sleep. Combined with the already mild effect at the AR, you could keep a good amount of your gains when using clomid or Nolvadex post-cycle. For those using it in conjunction with other, mostly injectable steroids, two doses seems to be the better choice, if you are taking in excess of 40 mg a day perhaps even three doses. "

The article gives the impression of validity but you will notice the lack of any references in this section. This is pure conjecture and is in fact wrong. Dbol is inhibitory at fairly low dosages - you will find multiple references on the net by searching under bridging. The number I have heard most often is 10mg though I imagine a partial HPTA recovery might be possible at this dosage. Given that the vast majority of people generally take at least 15mg and usually somewhere in the 20-30mg range the fairly vague "moderate to low dosages" would I guess be in the top end range of 15mg at the most.

Also, as can very plainly be seen in the basic halflife calcs I provided there is a massive sacrifice over the rest of the day for a single peak concentration. The bottom line is that recovery doesn't happen in a day or a few days. The absolute truth is that a single bout of intense lifting can require over 1 month for complete recovery (referred to as tissue remodeling - look it up, the number I believe was 6 weeks). It is very important to recovery that you have solid levels throughout the day. You train hard all the time but on steroids you make big gains - why? It is not so much the supperior stimulus but the supperior recovery response provided by the drugs. Given that even bodybuilder's (not the most knowledgable pool) believe that recovery is at a minimum a multi-day event, this is nothing more than common sense.

I don't believe whoever wrote that article has done the math and understands the importance of it. Don't get me wrong, it's a very nice profile with a lot of good general info but it's largely patched together from history, a few references, and hearsay (probably the most popular source for info in bodybuilding). Do the experiement yourself, take 20-30mg alone first thing in the morning for 6 weeks, stop dosage and within the next few days get your test levels checked. You will see as others have.
 
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