Arabian said:Bigfoot
Lochness Monster
Devils
HahahahaPICK3 said:I woke up with some mythical creatures after a long night at the bar![]()
string_bean00 said:I believe in unicorns
cryptozoology? no, all bullsit. irony is there is plenty of room in evolutionary design space for these creatures and many "monsters" have existed that were far more interesting. dont forget 99% of life on earth is extinct. btw i am more bored than you.....in that i actually responded to this crazy post.Arabian said:Bigfoot
Lochness Monster
Devils
Discuss : damn Im bored hheheheheheh
jh1 said:no
nor santa clause
nor tooth ferry
nor any other supernatural being - supreme or not...
Mr. dB said:No.
Add God and Jesus to that list.
i wrote somethign brotha bill style while on shitloads of coughsyrup about thisV-Machine said:There is plenty of historical evidence for the existence of Jesus. Evidence for the Holy Trinity however is kinda lacking.
IMO discounting God is tough because God can be defined in many ways. Food for thought is 'what came before the Big Bang'? The Vatican defines this period as the realm of God...........everything after is Science's territory apparently. Also, as all of the laws of nature go out of the window under extreme circumstances (e.g. singularities)......singularities etc themselves are supernatural (never mind how the Big Bang singularity came about).
I think too many people are too quick to discount the supernatural.......as somebody else said, our senses are limited so it is conceivable we miss a lot.
Sorry about ramblingJust spilling thoughts out via my keyboard..........
SublimeZM said:i wrote somethign brotha bill style while on shitloads of coughsyrup about this
yep i remember him, i think i have his AIM isnt it like jeepboarderguy o rsome shitV-Machine said:Lol. I remember when I was here before taking quite a long break that my response woulda had 3 or 4 jumping all over it by now. Seems things have changed.
BTW you remember Imnotdutch?
SublimeZM said:yep i remember him, i think i have his AIM isnt it like jeepboarderguy o rsome shit
SublimeZM said:yep i remember him, i think i have his AIM isnt it like jeepboarderguy o rsome shit
samoth said:Well, if they're mythical creatures, obviously they do not exist outside of myth, else it would negate such a term.
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layinback said:cryptozoology? no, all bullsit. irony is there is plenty of room in evolutionary design space for these creatures and many "monsters" have existed that were far more interesting. dont forget 99% of life on earth is extinct. btw i am more bored than you.....in that i actually responded to this crazy post.
jackangel said:technically, not true.

SublimeZM said:i believe there is all sorts of shit out there our brain and bodys just arnt complex enough to see, feel, or interact with, so while they dont exist to us, they still exist, at least in the abstract, in some form or another
JumpBallWinner said:This is one of my favorite subjects and I wish that more people realized that it goes far beyond the typical "Lochness/Bigfoot" crap that always headlines the conversations. Yes, those two creatures exist, but there are alot of other things out there in the crypto world that dont get the press, but are alot more fun to research and read about.

digimon7068 said:you bin smokin' again, eh??

jackangel said:samoth, please don't challenge me. it gets us nowhere. well, maybe you'll learn something.
you are wrong, i'm afraid, because there is more than one meaning or sense in which the word 'mythical' is used. as long as any one of those meanings apply here (and it seems at least one does), the use of the word is appropriate. yet, at the same time, that particular sense of the word doesn't require that something not exist in reality.

samoth said:I thought he was talking about infinitely small n-dimensional submanifolds folded up in our normal, everyday spacetime. But yeah, he's probably stoned, lol.
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samoth said:... still looking for a definition of myth that doesn't explicitly state or imply false belief...
... nothing yet...

samoth said:Semantical argument. Informal fallacy. HTH.
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jackangel said:mythical (in this context, one could say) = relating to myth, or the subject of a myth. i think we'll agree the examples mentioned qualify.
and yet, if something is the subject of a myth (implying that some/many/most people think it doesn't exist), does that mean it necessarily does not exist?

JumpBallWinner said:Cryptozoology is all bullshit? It's pretty arrogant to assume that we are aware of and have caught and logged creature that exist on the planet, especially since new species are constantly being discovered.
jackangel said:just go to dictionary.com, although i don't think you'll need to...you've probably seen the same ones that i have. you're being a bit obnoxious, even for me. try not to be a huge cunt, it's annoying. what is YWIA? no one here knows what that shit is, wrong board.
and the concept of belief is fine...we can do with that. what you believe and what is real are not necessarily the same. you are limiting the word for your convenience. i'm just pointing out an obvious line of reasoning.

Stefka said:I do kind of believe in ghosts though.
I think people have a lot of energy in them and it doesn't always get reabsorbed into the earth - all that energy has to go somewhere.

samoth said:It seems, according to the major dictionaries I checked (perhaps the Urban Dictionary would work better for you), that the definition of myth is intrinsically linked with: A) a belief, which is inherently in itself, and B) false or imaginary ideas, stories and beliefs.
YWIA.
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Stefka said:Yes - and your Wiki link doesn't change anything.
Stefka said:Yes - and your Wiki link doesn't change anything.
Mr. dB said:What about mythical stories about real people, such as the myth of George Washington and the cherry tree? It never happened, but it doesn't make George Washington any less real.
Jesus was apparently a real person. However, stories of virgin birth, being the son of God, and resurrection are plainly mythical.

samoth said:It was intended to give you a proper idea of what energy really is. Unless you're talking about religious energy or some other mythical (heh) kind of thing.
:coW:
Stefka said:No, not religious energy...
People are filled with all sorts of "energy" right?
So we die - where does it go?
Same with all living things- it gets reabsorbed back into the earth...
But sometimes I think that there is a little left over - that is what makes shit fall off shelves and makes lights flicker on and off.
Or maybe I'm wrong - but I think that there are many things left on earth that we cant quite explain.
Regardless, I still think those fairy chasers are dumbasses.
Stefka said:No, not religious energy...
People are filled with all sorts of "energy" right?
So we die - where does it go?
Same with all living things- it gets reabsorbed back into the earth...
But sometimes I think that there is a little left over - that is what makes shit fall off shelves and makes lights flicker on and off.
Or maybe I'm wrong - but I think that there are many things left on earth that we cant quite explain.
Regardless, I still think those fairy chasers are dumbasses.
Stefka said:No, not religious energy...
People are filled with all sorts of "energy" right?
So we die - where does it go?
Same with all living things- it gets reabsorbed back into the earth...
But sometimes I think that there is a little left over - that is what makes shit fall off shelves and makes lights flicker on and off.
Or maybe I'm wrong - but I think that there are many things left on earth that we cant quite explain.
Regardless, I still think those fairy chasers are dumbasses.

samoth said:
Mr. dB said:What "energy" do humans, or any animals, have that is not the direct result of the metabolic engine?
Perhaps they just think that science is not a completed book of work. There are still things to be discovered and explained.layinback said:this has morphed into CREDULOUS personality types vs. INCREDULOUS personality types. some folk believe in ghost, demons, bigfoot and gods. I've had many friends and associates espouse such beliefs. these were typically bright individuals as i dont associate with morons (except puddlemonkey) it is not a matter of intelligence or lack of that dictates ones belief in the fantastic or improbable but rather a personality style. i am a skeptic and cant understand how people believe in a benevolent anthropomorphic judeo christian god when all the evidence points to the contrary. we can argue all day but science is science and when something is presented without a shred of evidence it is mythos. it may be fun to romanticize and wax philosophical about such subjects but we should leave it at that. i think the sciences are just too boring for some and they need conspiracies and ghost. thats cool with me!!! if everybody liked the same horse there wouldnt be much of a horse race
Stefka said:OK, and physicsforum to you too old man.

samoth said:Crap, that was supposed to be a bug-eyed smiley. Dammit. It was really cute, too.
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That was sort of my point, sammy. ;-) Unfounded creatures do exist, but they may not be as fantastic as what imaginative people have described.samoth said:Okay, about this reiterated giant squid -- you all know there is a difference between the mythological GIANT SQUID and the actual species of giant squid that exist, right? Twenty-Thousand Leagues Under the Sea was a work of fiction, folks.
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my point exactly:heatherrae said:That was sort of my point, sammy. ;-) Unfounded creatures do exist, but they may not be as fantastic as what imaginative people have described.
layinback said:my point exactly:
1. heatherrae, iq 120-130 range (waaay above average) personality: credulous.
2. samoth, iq 140-150 ( stratosphere braniac) personality: incredulous.
layinback said:my point exactly:
1. heatherrae, iq 120-130 range (waaay above average) personality: credulous.
2. samoth, iq 140-150 ( stratosphere braniac) personality: incredulous.

heatherrae said:some of the truly great scientists have known to always think big and not to discount everything that is not yet discovered.

layinback said:this has morphed into CREDULOUS personality types vs. INCREDULOUS personality types. some folk believe in ghost, demons, bigfoot and gods. I've had many friends and associates espouse such beliefs. these were typically bright individuals as i dont associate with morons (except puddlemonkey) it is not a matter of intelligence or lack of that dictates ones belief in the fantastic or improbable but rather a personality style. i am a skeptic and cant understand how people believe in a benevolent anthropomorphic judeo christian god when all the evidence points to the contrary. we can argue all day but science is science and when something is presented without a shred of evidence it is mythos. it may be fun to romanticize and wax philosophical about such subjects but we should leave it at that. i think the sciences are just too boring for some and they need conspiracies and ghost. thats cool with me!!! if everybody liked the same horse there wouldnt be much of a horse race
You are way beyond 115, sammy.samoth said:I think IQ tests are largely overestimated, especially on the interwebs. I'd give myself an above average 110-115.
I have no clue what the IQ range for lawers is.
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heatherrae said:...and how about the research scientists for SETI? They are looking for something that most people automatically discount. I don't know if they will ever find anything, but they certainly aren't laughing about the possibility and discounting the intelligence of those who may believe in something beyond what has been already proven.

maybe I don't have my finger on the pulse of popular opinion, but I think most would say that such things do not exist.samoth said:Most people discount extraterrestrial life? I figured most people believed in it one way or another, depending on if there exists a popular television show like the X-Files showing at the time. Television greatly influences the masses through fictional shows like Star Trek, X-Files and CSI, for better or for worse.
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blueta2 said:Just because we cannot see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
There are many dimensions on the planet that we will never me privy to

people with 115 IQ's do not become physicist. furthermore they do not look at math as a "hobby". i am not refering to interweb test i am talking about the wechsler. internet intelligence inventories are a joke. shit puddlemonkey probably could test out normal on an internet IQ test. lol. you are underestimating yourself. btw you are a great guy, but its not your IQ that makes you great. intelligence is an inherited trait. complimenting someone on IQ is like complimenting someone for being tall.samoth said:I think IQ tests are largely overestimated, especially on the interwebs. I'd give myself an above average 110-115.
I have no clue what the IQ range for lawers is.
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IQ range for lawyers seems to run a pretty wide swath. I have met some who make me wonder how they passed the bar. Others are brilliant. Ironically, the richest lawyer I know is also the dumbest...samoth said:I think IQ tests are largely overestimated, especially on the interwebs. I'd give myself an above average 110-115.
I have no clue what the IQ range for lawers is.
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if their is extraterrestrial life and it is intelligent we dont want to meet up with it. our physic dictate a speed limit for the universe of 186000 miles per second. (at least for intrinsic matter) and these fuckers are capable of star travel (vaaaast distances)? fuck me runnin backwards. the last thing you wanna see is a UFO!!! we would be a formicular of ants, nuthin more .samoth said:Most people discount extraterrestrial life? I figured most people believed in it one way or another, depending on if there exists a popular television show like the X-Files showing at the time. Television greatly influences the masses through fictional shows like Star Trek, X-Files and CSI, for better or for worse.
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blueta2 said:Oh my god, I like totally believe in like Ghosts and UFO's, Like there was this one time like I was totally praying to God and like I saw a ghost. It was this cool ghost. It looked like a ufo.
heatherrae said:You are way beyond 115, sammy.
I, like you, think IQ test are much ado about nothing, though.
You can actually learn how to ace IQ tests, with practice. If they are a true measure of intelligence, this shouldn't be the case.
When I was in the gifted program in school, they were always testing us for various things. Our scores kept rising and rising, because we just got really good at the various tests...lol. Our intelligence certainly had not changed that drastically.
layinback said:if their is extraterrestrial life and it is intelligent we dont want to meet up with it. our physic dictate a speed limit for the universe of 186000 miles per second. (at least for intrinsic matter) and these fuckers are capable of star travel (vaaaast distances)? fuck me runnin backwards. the last thing you wanna see is a UFO!!! we would be a formicular of ants, nuthin more .
Wow I wonder how many speeding tickets Buck Rogers got... only being able to travel at 186,000 miles per hourbiteme said:Mine is 140+ . My mother had me tested by the school psychologist because I was a problem child...
Stefka said:Oh crap
Does this mean we have to be friends now?
biteme said:It could. I'm not that outspoken in real life. Only in the internet world. I'd piss off too many people in the real world and have to deal with the social consequences.
Those little green, bug-eyed men were pulling him over all the time.Arabian said:Wow I wonder how many speeding tickets Buck Rogers got... only being able to travel at 186,000 miles per hour
you is a smart girl, heather. no, the science degree would not have swayed my assessment. no, not your career as lawyers, doc's and the like score 100 and up. you have high verbal intelligence, a really cool ability to express very complex ideas and emotions,with ease. you are DRIVEN by your emotions and it is your cross to bare in this life. your keen intellect is always at odds with your slightly immature emotional self. i dare you take a wechsler IQ test and if you dont score what i said you would i will by 100000 karma for you. i trust you to tell me true results because i KNOW ppl really really well and you are honest. trust me i have a gift for this sorta thing.heatherrae said:I find it funny that layinback made an assumption about my IQ range, though. How did you come to that figure? Because of my career?
I bet if you knew that I have a science degree you would have guessed a higher number. ;-)
Honest to God, I've never scored as low as you guessed, but that is cool.layinback said:you is a smart girl, heather. no, the science degree would not have swayed my assessment. no, not your career as lawyers, doc's and the like score 100 and up. you have high verbal intelligence, a really cool ability to express very complex ideas and emotions,with ease. you are DRIVEN by your emotions and it is your cross to bare in this life. your keen intellect is always at odds with your slightly immature emotional self. i dare you take a wechsler IQ test and if you dont score what i said you would i will by 100000 karma for you. i trust you to tell me true results because i KNOW ppl really really well and you are honest. trust me i have a gift for this sorta thing.
lol. i think he "warped" space and used "dilithium crystals". anywho i loved doing psylocybin mushrooms and watching the t.v. version when i was a teen.Arabian said:Wow I wonder how many speeding tickets Buck Rogers got... only being able to travel at 186,000 miles per hour
well, better to underestimate. as for me i am "the bird man of alcatraz" guy. btw i am estimating based on your internet persona with limited data. (i have a little dose of antisocial personality and i am good at readin folks. self help, therapy, selfawareness and gettin lil older have conspired to mellow me out. read: not dangerous ......anymore)heatherrae said:Honest to God, I've never scored as low as you guessed, but that is cool.
You don't strike me as being antisocial.layinback said:well, better to underestimate. as for me i am "the bird man of alcatraz" guy. btw i am estimating based on your internet persona with limited data. (i have a little dose of antisocial personality and i am good at readin folks. self help, therapy, selfawareness and gettin lil older have conspired to mellow me out. read: not dangerous ......anymore)
heatherrae said:You don't strike me as being antisocial.
You did hit one nail on the head, though. I'm like a walking sack of estrogen. I would probably breast feed the planet and give everyone flowers and kisses if I had the chance...LOL. Overly emotional, romantic, and maternal -- my downfalls.

layinback said:well, better to underestimate. as for me i am "the bird man of alcatraz" guy. btw i am estimating based on your internet persona with limited data. (i have a little dose of antisocial personality and i am good at readin folks. self help, therapy, selfawareness and gettin lil older have conspired to mellow me out. read: not dangerous ......anymore)
civil law ? tell me you are not corp. or criminal law. btw i had lunch with errol copilevitz last month. wow, he is one smart lawyer and very pricey!!!heatherrae said:You don't strike me as being antisocial.
You did hit one nail on the head, though. I'm like a walking sack of estrogen. I would probably breast feed the planet and give everyone flowers and kisses if I had the chance...LOL. Overly emotional, romantic, and maternal -- my downfalls.
you would fall in love with me in 3 days. end of session.Stefka said:I think you should start a thread in which you psycho-analyze everyone on EF.
That could be interesting.
Do me first please.
layinback said:you would fall in love with me in 3 days. end of session.
heatherrae said:IQ range for lawyers seems to run a pretty wide swath. I have met some who make me wonder how they passed the bar. Others are brilliant. Ironically, the richest lawyer I know is also the dumbest...![]()
you have to post pics, stefka. if you look anything like you sound........oh my.....Stefka said:What is this love thing you speak of?
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