Ask any real bodybuilder what they prefer... steroids that have been around for years and we all know they work, and work well. Or a prohormone or pro steroid, which lets be honest usually gives you the negative effects of AAS and no where near the positives. I have used M1T and 19-norandrostenediol (before that was banned years ago) and they both fall way short of even the mildest steroids. I have first hand experience of this and im serious, i had far better gains on a 8 week 300mg cycle of primo than on either of those products....not to mention far less side effects. For a mod, you seem pretty quick to flash at people. I think we both know that i do have a clue what im talking about.