When was it official that Dbol was only to be used to "jumpstart" a cycle?

[Jenetic]

waiting for long esters to kick in is boring for some, meanwhile they have fun on dbol. thats my jist of it

Fair enough.

This obviously demonstrates a form of psychological satisfaction and/or comfort. Here comes the next problem when the user complains "Boo hoo. I'm losing strength" or "Boo hoo. Why am I not as strong? I'm still on cycle?"

Jenetic

 

[DIVISION]

I am interested in the opinions and reasons of those that explicitly promote this. Give me a reason other than liver damage because anyone that has acutally had experience knows that there isn't any extreme nor permanent damage with prolonged or high dosage use when liver protectants are taken in conjunction.

Jenetic

It's just one of those things in bodybuilding lore that D-bol is best utilized as a "jumpstart" to a cycle. Just like most people think Halotestin is harsher on the liver than any other 17-AA AAS, when all of them have the same effect on liver enyzmes.

DIV

 

[Jenetic]

It's just one of those things in bodybuilding lore that D-bol is best utilized as a "jumpstart" to a cycle. Just like most people think Halotestin is harsher on the liver than any other 17-AA AAS, when all of them have the same effect on liver enyzmes.

DIV

I will agree that sometimes you have to tell people what they want to hear.

Jenetic

 

[UA_Iron]

It's just one of those things in bodybuilding lore that D-bol is best utilized as a "jumpstart" to a cycle. Just like most people think Halotestin is harsher on the liver than any other 17-AA AAS, when all of them have the same effect on liver enyzmes.

DIV

so halo and var would have the same effect on liver enzymes?

 

[DIVISION]

so halo and var would have the same effect on liver enzymes?

Yup.

17AA is 17AA, regardless of which oral we are talkin' bout.

DIV

 

[Mikus]

Androgenic stimulus to the CNS in regards to strength is evident but subsides shortly after discontinuation. Neuromusclar adapatation to the training load and stimulus would not likely occur in the commonly recomended 4 weeks.

Jenetic

So by this post, how long do you recommend to run dbol for the long term gains?

Mike

 

[georgie24]

when i try dbol the dose will be 10mg ed to start. i bet ill still blow up as im sensative to any steroid

 

[Jenetic]

So by this post, how long do you recommend to run dbol for the long term gains?

Mike

Anywhere from 8-12 weeks on average.

Jenetic

 

[Mikus]

Anywhere from 8-12 weeks on average.

Jenetic

Very interesting indeed.

What is your recommended dosing for this 8-12 week period?

Mike

 

[DIVISION]

Anywhere from 8-12 weeks on average.

Jenetic

30-50MG ed?

DIV