very very terrible. my life is fuc#$% (serious)

[Dial_tone]

They don't know at this point because the fetus wouldn't be developed enough to tell. They're making a guesstimation based on the risk factors. All you can do is all you can do.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

From the looks of it your gf has to change her lifestyle if she wants to have a healthy child. Go to a doctor and tell him/her everything that could possibly have an effect on the fetus.
Sorry to hear about your troubles dude, stay strong.

 

[beefybull]

Damn JM... just remember in the end you're probably doing the right thing. If she's really been subjecting a fetus to that type of damage and malnutrition in addition to her daily running, it might ultimately cause a lot of problems or a miscarriage anyway. Who knows, you might have a miracle baby. It's a tough choice - we're all holdin it down for you bor.

 

[Pamela]

I just read your thread!

How old is your girlfriend? Are you and her willing to give up your life right now?
You will have to raise a baby.. maybe it will be OK, may not be!

Do you both have the responsibility to do that right now?

That's what you both need to discuss.. It will be a life long commitment;
For a new person to come into this world.

Gosh JA best to you both..

 

[Fonz]

i dont even know why im posting this. it is beyond messed up on many levels. im in the biggest moral dilema of my life.


i just found out my gf is pregnant. 7 weeks today(apparently happened the last time we slept together). great, right? well it would be had she not been taking something class x for pregnancy (12.5mg ed winstrol), something class c (a commonly prescribed headache medication), been staying up all night working nights, not eating well, and having a genetic link to high risk (although apparently normal until 8mo) pregnancies. she has been supposed to get on bc after her next cycle(never happened).

im in the biggest moral dilema of my life. ive always been anti abortion. totally. 100%. well now that a physician (graduated from harvard) has told us to terminate the pregancy, i dont know what to do. i cant eat, sleep, or even drink any water im so sick all the time.

an ob/gyn from around where we live said "there's no problem with females taking androgens and pregnancy", yeah okay his credibility is out the window.

shes also been taking ephedra like me to be able to stay awake and work nights and be normal college students during the day, and she runs 10miles a day a lot, has never been regular, and sometimes goes 6mo without a complete menstrual cycle.

This might get me flamed 1000x over but what the heck.

1. Terminate the pregnancy ASAP.

Your AAS habits and your SO's supplemental habits(ephedra)(headacehe medication) etc..... will increase the chances of birth defects.

Now, nobody knows wether these defects will manifest themselves or not, but why take the chance?

You have the chance of aborting, then when you're both ready starting over and doing it right.

If I ever chose to procreate I would make damn sure what was good or not for the pregnancy beforehand. My GF and myself included.

But in the end...its a battle of beliefs...but beliefs are words...while a baby is human flesh.

So, the question becomes...are you willing to take the chance that your baby MAY have birth defects based solely on your beliefs?

Tough question to answer. I do not envy you in that regard.

 

[Apöllo]

Get some more opinions like someone else said here.

If you feel that an abortion would comprimise your feelings towards the subject and you're very much against abortion, then don't do it.

If you run the risk of having a child with a birth defect than maybe you should think about preparing for a life where you can dedicate your whole self to this child.

This is a very touchy subject, I can't even count the number of EF members that have had abortions. I feel everyone should stand by what they believe. I believe God tests us in many ways, perhaps this is your test in faith.

Either way, I'm sure this will be a milestone in your life that will affect you for the rest of it.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

From the looks of it your gf has to change her lifestyle if she wants to have a healthy child. Go to a doctor and tell him/her everything that could possibly have an effect on the fetus.
Sorry to hear about your troubles dude, stay strong.

thanks man

getting her to be honest about the lifestyle has be one of the hardest parts.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

This might get me flamed 1000x over but what the heck.

1. Terminate the pregnancy ASAP.

Your AAS habits and your SO's supplemental habits(ephedra)(headacehe medication) etc..... will increase the chances of birth defects.

Now, nobody knows wether these defects will manifest themselves or not, but why take the chance?

You have the chance of aborting, then when you're both ready starting over and doing it right.

If I ever chose to procreate I would make damn sure what was good or not for the pregnancy beforehand. My GF and myself included.

But in the end...its a battle of beliefs...but beliefs are words...while a baby is human flesh.

So, the question becomes...are you willing to take the chance that your baby MAY have birth defects based solely on your beliefs?

Tough question to answer. I do not envy you in that regard.

man dude thats really what im leaning towards right now, glad more than me think this way!

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

This is a very touchy subject, I can't even count the number of EF members that have had abortions.

Either way, I'm sure this will be a milestone in your life that will affect you for the rest of it.

id like to (via pm) hear about those experiences with clinics. it was the most depressing thing ive ever been to. so many girls came in there that day crying. only 2 guys besides me were there.


this appears to be one of those defining moments.

 

[Forge]

Well, this is the only advice I can give you, here are two questions:

1. Do you love your girlfriend enough to spend the rest of your life with her?

2. Are both of you prepared to changer your lifestyles to raise a child, even possibly a child with serious problems that will require MUCH special attention?


If you can answer YES to both questions, then take the gamble and have the child, as it sounds like you are / were against abortion. If you answer NO to one or both, then get the abortion as you are not ready to bring a child into this world. What decision is she leaning towards?

If it were me, I would abort immediately. But it's not me, and it's not anyone else in this thread either, it's you. YOU have to make the decision that is best for yourself and her, not for everyone at EF. Just remember that in reality there is no wrong decision here; it's simply what you decide to do with your life, and it's really no one else's business to judge you or tell you what to do.

In short, get off the board and talk to your GF!

Good luck bro.