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The True Face of Gun Control

curling said:
I wonder if some Jews that were in Germany pre ww2 said the same thing about Germany. I think alot of people put waaaayyy to much faith in their govt. Our forefathers new govt could go corupt and that is why they had the forthought to let its citizens have the right to bear arms.

Fair enough although I was referring more to the fact that we can live in a city in this country without hearing automatic weapons fire every other day or having 10-15 murders on a weekend (that's about 4 months worth for Toronto)...........
 
p0ink said:
do i think every member of the gun control lobby is a secret advocate of gun control? no. they are useful idiots.

gun control has only led to bad things each and every time it's been tried.

What bad things happened as a result of the assault weapon ban or the Brady Law?
 
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
What bad things happened as a result of the assault weapon ban or the Brady Law?

If some tryranical govt was trying to genocide you and your family. Which weapon would you rather have to fight them off a 5 round deer rifle or an uzi and an AK?
 
all cited countries were autocratic. something to think about.

You really think an american army that draws upon democratic citizenry to serve is going to perpetrate crimes (including genocide) against their peers?
 
curling said:
I wonder if some Jews that were in Germany pre ww2 said the same thing about Germany. I think alot of people put waaaayyy to much faith in their govt. Our forefathers new govt could go corupt and that is why they had the forthought to let its citizens have the right to bear arms.


there were very few Jews in Germany. Only about .5%; the Germans had to go find them.

Nevertheless, the rules for imposing martial law are as follows:

1. disarm the populace
2. impose martial law

Liberals do not see gun control as a means to hasten genocide. But their thought process is the same. (bring it haters, I'll explain).

Modern liberals seek to tell people what they should do. Increased taxes, more social programs, gun control, etc. These are at the heart of today's liberal agenda. All of these can be cloaked in the rhetoric of "we want to solve problems".

Social programs help the poor and the old, gun control prevents violence, etc.

While well intentioned, liberals add a component to these that undermine them: government imposition. For example, social programs ARE noble, charities are a wonderful expression of man's best assets. FORCING people to contribute is offensive to the idea of individual rights and our rationality.

Gun control is a noble thing - guns can kill people. Individuals who choose to use guns should be made aware of the deadly power of a gun and know how to use it. Efforts should be made to keep gunds out of the hands of criminals. But at NO POINT should the rights of law abiding citizens to own a gun ever be infringed or restricted. Education, not legislation, is the answer to gun issues.

When you use the government to impose social programs, there is no charity. There is only compliance under pain of imprisonment. The property of individuals is taken from them and given to someone else by law under pain of jail. There is no redresss for grievances.

When guns are taken by the government, all means of redress are finally and forever removed. The ultimate outcome of the modern liberal stance is not the solution of social issues, but the imprisonment of man to an all powerful state against which man has no recourse or redress.

Genocide follows.

Liberalism is a philosophy that hates people and is destructive. I cannot understand why anyone adheres to it.
 
Poink, next time you post article, use the poll feature.

The poll should ask:

"Do any of you guys actually read the shit I post? Yes or No"
 
HS Lifter said:
Poink, next time you post article, use the poll feature.

The poll should ask:

"Do any of you guys actually read the shit I post? Yes or No"

You don't find this interesting? I mean this is some of the best stuff yet against gun control.
 
curling said:
You don't find this interesting? I mean this is some of the best stuff yet against gun control.

I breifly glance over the articles, and NO, I dont find it interesting.

You actually read it from beginning to end?
 
HS Lifter said:
I breifly glance over the articles, and NO, I dont find it interesting.

You actually read it from beginning to end?

Well not all of it I mainly glance over it but this part stood out:

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control1 in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: at least 56 million... that we know about.
 
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