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The True Face of Gun Control

MattTheSkywalker said:
Gun control is a noble thing - guns can kill people. Individuals who choose to use guns should be made aware of the deadly power of a gun and know how to use it. Efforts should be made to keep gunds out of the hands of criminals. But at NO POINT should the rights of law abiding citizens to own a gun ever be infringed or restricted. Education, not legislation, is the answer to gun issues.

This is true, 67% of the time.

For the other 33%, what do you suggest, Matthew?
 
XBiker said:
This is true, 67% of the time.

For the other 33%, what do you suggest, Matthew?


I would suggest to you that those who would use a gun to kill another person in anything other than self defense would have found a gun to use regardless of it's legality.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Modern liberals seek to tell people what they should do. Increased taxes, more social programs, gun control, etc. These are at the heart of today's liberal agenda. All of these can be cloaked in the rhetoric of "we want to solve problems".

Careful with the generalizations...

neocons want to outlaw abortion, have prayer in public schools, prevent gays from marrying, push the drug war, etc.

those all fall under the rubric of "telling people what do to," and mostly don't even have the connotation of "we want to solve problems"
 
casualbb said:
all cited countries were autocratic. something to think about.

You really think an american army that draws upon democratic citizenry to serve is going to perpetrate crimes (including genocide) against their peers?

Boo-yah. Karma.

casualbb said:
Careful with the generalizations...

neocons want to outlaw abortion, have prayer in public schools, prevent gays from marrying, push the drug war, etc.

those all fall under the rubric of "telling people what do to," and mostly don't even have the connotation of "we want to solve problems"

(Boo-yah)²
 
sweet! maybe we can roundup and kill some Republicans.
 
casualbb said:
Careful with the generalizations...

neocons want to outlaw abortion, have prayer in public schools, prevent gays from marrying, push the drug war, etc.

those all fall under the rubric of "telling people what do to," and mostly don't even have the connotation of "we want to solve problems"

That's all true, both parties are actually statists, but your response misses the point: saying that Group A is doing the same thing as Group B does not absolve or validate as acceptable the actions of Group A.

Members of Group A confer on themselves no special benefit by saying "we're not the only assholes".
 
its still very easy for a convicted fellon's to get guns.....what should be done about that pOink...? we how much you want to excute crimals
 
XBiker said:
This is true, 67% of the time.

For the other 33%, what do you suggest, Matthew?

suggest you refigure your numbers, Steven.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
That's all true, both parties are actually statists, but your response misses the point: saying that Group A is doing the same thing as Group B does not absolve or validate as acceptable the actions of Group A.

Members of Group A confer on themselves no special benefit by saying "we're not the only assholes".

I wasn't trying to absolve dems of any guilt with respect to statism

the conservatives here always say "liberals want to tell people what to do"
I was pointing out that they do it too, making them hypocritical.
 
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