needsize said:I was patient, and looked decent after all those years, but thats a lot of time to get where I was. I am glad I waited to juice(maybe 3 less years would have been good as a totally plateaued for those last three), as after one cycle I looked like I had done a lot more, and understood my body really well. Thats why I definitely advocate waiting until you at least have a good base, the results are that much better when you do
This is what I have been saying for a long time here, but with steroids SO EASY to come by now you almost have what I would consider an "epidemic" of young undereducated "kids" taking them who have NO BUSINESS using them

I predict that will only get worse

Its hard work ethic that gets lasting results, NOT simply more and more juice

