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just curious i hear some ppl say u dont have to run a pct after a ccycle....what can happen if you dont when u run lets say test cyp and deca????
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No pct????
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PCT is needed for every cycle. Why people spend some much on AAS and then turn cheap when it comes to PCT is beyond me.
it can take you anywhere from a few months to two years for your htpa to return to normal values;
all the sides of high estrogen;
all the sides of low test;
and "all" means a lot of miserable and adverse sides
Ezekiel
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Well my friend,
It goes like this:
W/ out PCT you wont keep as many gains, if any! It'll take longer (way longer) to get your natural test levels back up. W/ Dec you'll run into the dreaded Deca dick problem of not being able to satisfy you partner *wink.
Not too mention the obvious of having all your shit together inclucding A.I's for and sides. PCT "gear" can be bought for less then $150.00 That's a few coffee's and what not.
I could prably go on for an hour, but clearly some research on your part is in order.
Best of luck.
cuts82
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The people that say this shit are idiots and or cheap! why would you want to risk not recovering properly too save a few bucks! example- 17 year old kid at my gym ran 1g YES 1g of deca for 10 weeks got totally shut down lost pretty much all his gains and when i asked what he ran for pct he's like 'whats pct?' i expalined and he just says 'fuck wasting your money on that, im savin for my next cycle!. I have not seen him for months i heard he dosnt train when his off cycle!
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ALIN
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People often overlook PCT when in reality it should be taken as serious as your AAS cycle.
Cardinal Slin
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Honestly bro - it's each to his own...
I have rarely done PCT in any correct kind of manner and have managed to keep most of what I have gained...
My mistakes in losing some of it have been too much cardio and lifting too much after ending my cycle but PCT can make life a little easier.
At the end of the day your body will come back to it's natural hormonal state quickly but things can be used to speed it up.
It is the time you need to be right with training, diet and rest as you don't have anything creating that major anabolic state
I have rarely done PCT in any correct kind of manner and have managed to keep most of what I have gained...
My mistakes in losing some of it have been too much cardio and lifting too much after ending my cycle but PCT can make life a little easier.
At the end of the day your body will come back to it's natural hormonal state quickly but things can be used to speed it up.
It is the time you need to be right with training, diet and rest as you don't have anything creating that major anabolic state
There's more to it than that. In fact, that may do nothing at all in regard to recovery.
Some people just go through the motion of PCT but don't really understand it. They think it's something you should do but they're back on another cycle in month so in reality, the PCT did nothing because they were just relying on different drugs in the interim.
Cardinal Slin
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it's quite funny with this whole pct thing....
those who are the biggest rarely do it and yet can have children and live in to the right old age...
those who are the biggest rarely do it and yet can have children and live in to the right old age...
Burpees
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kinda like me, been off for 6 weeks, did one month of hcg, now on a low dose of nolvadex.. plan to be back on the first of march..
you are saying in the long run this will just add up to one long cycle?
Q'wai Ch'ang
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I've used more than 20,000mg/ml of injectables and 10,000mg of orals doing a two month cycle.
I used milk thistle and flax seed oil. during that time. Weight shot up to 245lb. on my 5'11" frame and I felt really good! Now I'm at 220lb and I'm going to go for 280lb this time around! Wish me luck! PCT??? What"s THAT? LOL
needtogetaas
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I can get hit buy a car going 90 mph and live to tell the tale. Do I want to risk it? Hell fucking no I don't.
I can fuck the hot skank that throws herself at me with out a condum and hope I do not get the clap. Is it a good idea to do so? Hell fucking no.
Point is yes there is a lot of things in life we might be able to get away with but wtf would we risk it for?
Does looking both ways before you cross the road take to much time? Does a condom cost to much for you?
Does doing pct take up to much time? Does pct cost to much for you? Get the fuck out of the game then. Its simple just do the right thing.
LOL.... NEEDSTO IS ALIVE AGAIN.... SILLY TREN IT WOKE YOU UP ALL CRAZY LIKE!!!!
But true I mean what to loose is the question and why??? Would you use a bucket with a hole in it to get water? You waste size and gains therefore money to!!! Just do it don't take the chance... I got nasty acne when I thought the way you are...not worth it!!!!!!
needtogetaas
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LOL.... NEEDSTO IS ALIVE AGAIN.... SILLY TREN IT WOKE YOU UP ALL CRAZY LIKE!!!!
But true I mean what to loose is the question and why??? Would you use a bucket with a hole in it to get water? You waste size and gains therefore money to!!! Just do it don't take the chance... I got nasty acne when I thought the way you are...not worth it!!!!!!
I been lacking on the forums for a bit. Fuck this I need my bro's and I will never forget it. I am never leaving my ef forum roots and i will always be here...
I have no strangers just people I have not met yet.
Pretty much, yeah.
aquatic_glories
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And how bad you think is that???
that ass is sublime 
krimsonkasper
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When I did my first cycle, I didnt have a PCT. ( Didnt really understand that I needed it.) I didnt end up with any gyno or anything but I lost all the gains from it. So as the adage goes " If had known then what I know now" would have done it.
Q'wai Ch'ang
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I can see what you mean. I hate doing the oral cycles and lose 50% of what I had gained.
So now I use omnas or sust to keep a bit! I found out that 3.5k isn't enough. i may have to increase that to 5k a day!
needtogetaas
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And this is why I asked what I asked in pm my good bro.
needtogetaas
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By no means dose what you keep after pct have to do with whether your cycle was oral or inject. Please some one fucking test me on this with facts. Not going to happen. The gains you keep have nothing to do with how you got them... Prove me wrong peeps any time you feel the need. Keeping gains is about your pct. Diet training and products used. How you got them and how fast you got them has a pit to do with it and of course it has a baring on the type of pct you need, but saying because you got gains from x cycle so you can not keep them is dumb.
RADAR
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Proper PCT Helps you retain those gains! Why even take gear if you're not gonna take PCT!
RADAR
needtogetaas
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This is my boy
blake6463
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In my experiences off my 1st cycle of deca 1cc at 10 weeks and not doing PCT was horrible! At the time i really dident understand the severity of PCT ir even knew why i felt how i did. Lets just say i lost most of my gains thru about 4 months bec/ i felt tired all the time=lame ass workouts and cofee 24/7. Shitty appetite. And my my libido was not there to top, and i just thought i was manicly depressed. Ill research more and more about PCT as well as practice it bec/ it is how your body revives it necesary homiostasis.
RADAR
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Live and learn my friend!
Proper PCT is a must!
If i can ever help ,pm me!
RADAR
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when i first started using i was very uneducated. i was in college and knew nothing about PCT. back than..i didnt keep many gains...now im all over this site..im very educated and know alot about PCT thanx to needto and everyone else. with all that said..i keep a majority of my gains...so money = well spent!
blake6463
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needtogetaas
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Cardinal Slin
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a lot of very opinionated people on this board -
"people who don't do PCT lose most if not all of their games"
"people who don't do PCT are idiots"
"people who don't do PCT are stupid"
Not every gym goer spends their life on elitefitness anabolic steroid discussion board, not every user has the access to this information or quite simply would not know it's available. They get their gear from some big guy and they listen to him - that's the reality. It does not make someone stupid if they don't do PCT.
"people who don't do PCT lose most if not all of their games"
"people who don't do PCT are idiots"
"people who don't do PCT are stupid"
Not every gym goer spends their life on elitefitness anabolic steroid discussion board, not every user has the access to this information or quite simply would not know it's available. They get their gear from some big guy and they listen to him - that's the reality. It does not make someone stupid if they don't do PCT.
Anyone who thinks PCT is not necessary is retarded and knows nothing about aas. If you don't understand that, we need to have a conversation.
goal200
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BOUT TIME!!! What a tool that guy was...
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