My house got robbed last night while I was home

[AAP]

Fuck. Did you just think that shit up? haha.

Naw, that's my actual set up bro. Keeps crooks outside and tricks inside.

I got more locks on my door than Jeffrey Dahmer had.

 

[-SD-]

Save the money on a gun. More gun owners are shot by their own guns, particularly since you have sleep apnea and have a machine running. Additionally, a gun won't protect your home when you're out, it just is something else for the thief to steal.

Use your head and get a security system installed, immediately.

Im calling you out on the "more gun owners are shot with their own gun" claim.

gotta back that up with something

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

The outside of my apartment is covered in ADT stickers. I don't have an alarm though. Think like a thief. You are there to grab stuff and get out quick. If you see an ADT sticker you are likely to hesitate and just hit another nearby house. If you just keep a gun under your pillow, the thief is unaware of that and it doesn't factor in his decision regarding what house to hit.

Use the alarm and alarm advertisements as the preventative and the gun as the final solution.

 

[musclemom]

Im calling you out on the "more gun owners are shot with their own gun" claim.

gotta back that up with something

Frigged if I can figure out how to google that particular little gem. Okay, I'm not perfect, allow me to revise what I said. Let's say in a home where there are guns, the odds are higher that someone you love (which includes you) is going to get shot by that gun before a "bad" person does.

See, here's my argument with guns (I have no general problems with guns, okay). Firstly, most people who own guns have virtually no proper training in their use. Plenty have only been to a range once or twice, if at all. Using a gun to shoot a living person when you've had basically no training, particularly when you've just been woken out of a sound sleep, is roughly on par with knowing how to protect yourself with karate just because you watched a Bruce Lee movie.

Second, many people who own guns don't think about keeping that gun properly secured. I live near Philly and I am not exaggerating when I'm telling you I hear at least two stories a year on the news (probably more) of children being shot by the family handgun.

Finally, as I said from the beginning, a gun does NOTHING to protect your home when you're not there. All you've done is now provide the thief with something else to steal that has the potential to be used to harm someone innocent.

I just think guns are over rated for home defense. And I fully expect you to have a bias, you are in Texas, after all. You people practically give guns away with Happy Meals.

 

[billfred]

Frigged if I can figure out how to google that particular little gem. Okay, I'm not perfect, allow me to revise what I said. Let's say in a home where there are guns, the odds are higher that someone you love (which includes you) is going to get shot by that gun before a "bad" person does.

See, here's my argument with guns (I have no general problems with guns, okay). Firstly, most people who own guns have virtually no proper training in their use. Plenty have only been to a range once or twice, if at all. Using a gun to shoot a living person when you've had basically no training, particularly when you've just been woken out of a sound sleep, is roughly on par with knowing how to protect yourself with karate just because you watched a Bruce Lee movie.

Second, many people who own guns don't think about keeping that gun properly secured. I live near Philly and I am not exaggerating when I'm telling you I hear at least two stories a year on the news (probably more) of children being shot by the family handgun.

Finally, as I said from the beginning, a gun does NOTHING to protect your home when you're not there. All you've done is now provide the thief with something else to steal that has the potential to be used to harm someone innocent.

I just think guns are over rated for home defense. And I fully expect you to have a bias, you are in Texas, after all. You people practically give guns away with Happy Meals.

I would not disagree with what you said here but still believe that should be ones prerogative.

 

[musclemom]

I would not disagree with what you said here but still believe that should be ones prerogative.

As I said, I have no problem with gun ownership in general (with the exception of semi-automatic weapons, which have no real use or purpose for private citizens). I simply do not agree with the thought that "I have a gun, I'm safer from being robbed than if I have a good security system."

On top of everything else, you run a very real risk of being hauled to court, either to face charges or a lawsuit, if you shoot someone who breaks into your home.

 

[billfred]

As I said, I have no problem with gun ownership in general (with the exception of semi-automatic weapons, which have no real use or purpose for private citizens). I simply do not agree with the thought that "I have a gun, I'm safer from being robbed than if I have a good security system."

On top of everything else, you run a very real risk of being hauled to court, either to face charges or a lawsuit, if you shoot someone who breaks into your home.

I am with you - agreed 100%. Send me some nudes!!

 

[-SD-]

On top of everything else, you run a very real risk of being hauled to court, either to face charges or a lawsuit, if you shoot someone who breaks into your home.

Not where I live. Castle Doctrine baby

 

[-SD-]

Frigged if I can figure out how to google that particular little gem. Okay, I'm not perfect, allow me to revise what I said. Let's say in a home where there are guns, the odds are higher that someone you love (which includes you) is going to get shot by that gun before a "bad" person does.

Stats? Cite?

See, here's my argument with guns (I have no general problems with guns, okay). Firstly, most people who own guns have virtually no proper training in their use. Plenty have only been to a range once or twice, if at all. Using a gun to shoot a living person when you've had basically no training, particularly when you've just been woken out of a sound sleep, is roughly on par with knowing how to protect yourself with karate just because you watched a Bruce Lee movie.

So lets not give anyone a fighting chance at all in their own home because of any possibility it could get used against them?
That like not putting on your seatbelt because theres a chance the accident you have will burst your car into flames.

Second, many people who own guns don't think about keeping that gun properly secured. I live near Philly and I am not exaggerating when I'm telling you I hear at least two stories a year on the news (probably more) of children being shot by the family handgun.

this is a totally seperate issue from defending yourself from a home invasion or robber. But yes, guns should be properly secured when children are involved.

Finally, as I said from the beginning, a gun does NOTHING to protect your home when you're not there. All you've done is now provide the thief with something else to steal that has the potential to be used to harm someone innocent.

This makes no sense. Why have anything at all of value in your home, it just might get stolen? if guns are properly secured this is a nonissue. And if you have a concealed carry license you can just carry it with you. At least you understand a gun is an inanimate object that must be properly weilded to be of use.

I just think guns are over rated for home defense. And I fully expect you to have a bias, you are in Texas, after all. You people practically give guns away with Happy Meals.

"You people" you speak of are the majority of the nation actually. More than half of the states allow concealed carry. And in order to get a gun LEGALLY in texas you must pass a FBI background check.
If guns arent suitable for home defense i would love to know your solution.

 

[Dial_tone]

I think there are more people accidentally shot by guns in the home than there are people who are shot while breaking into a home. I don't really care; it's just not for me.