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my friend's back is uneven! what can he do to fix it (pic included)

I was feeling really bad for you till the 2nd pic.. actually you have lats that go pretty far down your back so that's good for you. shouldnt' be too bad if you take the advice listed above.
did you really just name yourself mrsgigglepants? lmao that's great
 
i was on this board a few years ago as tableedge, but it got retired due to my inactivity. and i had to pick a new screenname for aim to avoid those people that eventually learned my sn and i didn't like them and feel guilty about blocking them because they'll inevitably find out that i did. i'm sure you're familiar with the ordeal.
in any event, is everyone sure about the volume? i really like really beating the shit out of my back and it doesn't seem to be to my detriment. is there a # of set limit or anything? i'm guessing i'm just gonna revamp my entire back routine.

so far I'm thinking...

weighted pullups(palms away) 4x8-12
bent over rows 4x8-12
close grip pullups(palms away) 4x8-12

and accepting suggestions. remember, I'm not scared of high volume.

nobody likes pullovers?
 
MrsGigglepants said:
i was on this board a few years ago as tableedge, but it got retired due to my inactivity. and i had to pick a new screenname for aim to avoid those people that eventually learned my sn and i didn't like them and feel guilty about blocking them because they'll inevitably find out that i did. i'm sure you're familiar with the ordeal.
in any event, is everyone sure about the volume? i really like really beating the shit out of my back and it doesn't seem to be to my detriment. is there a # of set limit or anything? i'm guessing i'm just gonna revamp my entire back routine.

so far I'm thinking...

weighted pullups(palms away) 4x8-12
bent over rows 4x8-12
close grip pullups(palms away) 4x8-12

and accepting suggestions. remember, I'm not scared of high volume.

nobody likes pullovers?

haha message board politics :)

I LOVE pullovers. I like to use them as a final exercise for 1 or 2 sets to stretch everything out but they are not the backbone of a back routine. As far as the volume question.. are you growing?
 
It seems I am. Actually, I think i've made decent progress with my back this year. I never really take measurements or anything. actually, i never really put on weight either, but i get bigger and gradually stronger; don't ask me to explain it. if people are suggesting i'm overtraining, there's no possible way that i am.

and thank you for backing me up on poor unappreciated pullovers.
 
MrsGigglepants said:
It seems I am. Actually, I think i've made decent progress with my back this year. I never really take measurements or anything. actually, i never really put on weight either, but i get bigger and gradually stronger; don't ask me to explain it. if people are suggesting i'm overtraining, there's no possible way that i am.

yep that is pretty confusing :confused: however WalkingBeast has described a similar experience. I guess the only explanation is that your body composition keeps changing. if you are so sure you are overtraining then there is no point in talking about a change in volume I guess!

MrsGigglepants said:
and thank you for backing me up on poor unappreciated pullovers.

WAY unappreciated!!!
 
Obvious solution is to work the undeveloped side. I notice that the lower trap is the undeveloped area. As a result I would do an exersise such as follows:

Using a bench and cable setup. Lie head towards the cable pully on your back. Using a full range of motion with his right (?) arm (undeveloped one..duh) do a movement just like pull ups would. Reaching over his head evenly pull the cable all the way down to his side. Make SURE to bring the movement as far down as he can. He'll know if his doing it right cause when he feels it the next day, it should hurt there if it's underdeveloped.

Reason for this is that it will significantly reduce the use of shoulder muscle recruitment and at the same time utilize the lats right down to the hip (where they actually rejoin the body). The lat is the ONLY muscle that connects the upper body to the lower body. This will develop his lats from top to bottom and "fill in" the area that is missing. Unless of course he's born that way in which case...he's fucked!

His underdeveloped side is typical of doing alot of pull-ups that don't pull you "all the way up" to or past your chin. Your lats nearer your armpit become overly wide and don't taper down to your waist. Likely not how HE got that way though.
 
wow, ok. i'm gonna try the bent over rows and get back into deads. i'll try the isolation bench by the cable thing as a last resort. and i'm gonna switch from behind the neck to in front and pulldowns to pull ups.

everyone, thanks a ton for all the help. i wish poink asked a few months ago for me, then at least i could have used my school's gym. everyone here has been awesome. still, if anyone else has suggestions, keep them coming.
 
When you're doing a bilateral pull (pullups, rows) try to focus on pulling more with your weaker side. The extra effort will go towards evening out the pull.

No, just because the movement involves both arms doesn't automatically mean the load is even. Ever seen someone bench where the left side was always lower than the right?
 
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