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Injecting Problems : Hard to push gear out syringe.

hardrock said:
Bro you can easily push Winny through a 25g. If you gonna mix the shot with anything oil based, use a 23 gauge.

Top of the glutes leave me with little to no pain and or lumps.

Right now I'm rotating between both glutes and delts. Quad shots leave me walking like a tard, especially if I gotta get down on my knees to demo a bike to a customer.


Well I'm glad to see I'm not the only one walking "like a tard". I either look like a tard or like I got a corncob stuck up my butt. lol
 
hardrock said:
Bro you can easily push Winny through a 25g. If you gonna mix the shot with anything oil based, use a 23 gauge.

Top of the glutes leave me with little to no pain and or lumps.

Right now I'm rotating between both glutes and delts. Quad shots leave me walking like a tard, especially if I gotta get down on my knees to demo a bike to a customer.
depends on the winny my friend. remember not all winny is micronized. yes denkall and zambons will go thru 25's like butter, but good old winny v will jam up in a 21 sometimes... depends on the brand

and you should not mix oil based/water based gear in the same shot.
just because some people have gotten away with it, doesnt mean it's a good idea.
 
LVTitan said:
and you should not mix oil based/water based gear in the same shot.
just because some people have gotten away with it, doesnt mean it's a good idea.

I've always done it that way and never had a proble. Neither have those I've spoken to about it. In fact before I did it I either posted a thread or read one about it here. To each his own though I guess.
 
hardrock said:
I've always done it that way and never had a proble. Neither have those I've spoken to about it. In fact before I did it I either posted a thread or read one about it here. To each his own though I guess.

I agree, I mix oil and water together also, never a problem. I've never seen a good answer on why you can't do that either. The only answer I ever see is the same one that's always posted. Water and Oil causes an emulsion etc etc etc....well no shit.... an emulsion is nothing more than a suspension of two liquids that will not mix. That has nothing to do with whether it will be abosorbed or not or cause problems. I'm still waiting on someone to back up their case as to the medical reasoning behind why they say it can't be done.
 
pentatonic said:
I agree, I mix oil and water together also, never a problem. I've never seen a good answer on why you can't do that either. The only answer I ever see is the same one that's always posted. Water and Oil causes an emulsion etc etc etc....well no shit.... an emulsion is nothing more than a suspension of two liquids that will not mix. That has nothing to do with whether it will be abosorbed or not or cause problems. I'm still waiting on someone to back up their case as to the medical reasoning behind why they say it can't be done.
what "can" happen, and does sometimes is that the oil encapsulates some of the water based gear in a pocket, not allowing it to release as fast as it should. when you have water based gear sitting around in a 98 degree moist environment for too long, you have the possibility of infection and abscess.. i havent seen it personally, but several people have posted experiences like that here... that's all...
 
Don't heat the gear when it's already in the syringe and do not take the pin off and heat it. Heat it under running hot water while its still in the vial or amp. I don't know about anyone else but I'm all about clean injections and most of the advice that has been given would cause a possible contamination of the stuff you are injecting into your body.
 
LVTitan said:
what "can" happen, and does sometimes is that the oil encapsulates some of the water based gear in a pocket, not allowing it to release as fast as it should. when you have water based gear sitting around in a 98 degree moist environment for too long, you have the possibility of infection and abscess.. i havent seen it personally, but several people have posted experiences like that here... that's all...

That's perfectly understanable while the oil is in the syringe, once it's in the muscle tissue the oil and water disperses or spreads out so that theory doesn't hold true once inside muscle tissue. If your gear is sterile and your injecting technique is sterile, there will be no infection.
 
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