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Hello Ill get right to it. I am 19 yrs old, 6'1" about 165, I was around 185 (mostly in my legs)once but then I went to college and stopped working out as much lol. The summer is almost here and one of my friends is going to try a cycle of Winstrol for a month starting in June. I think that I am going to do it with him. We are taking pills, not injecting, but I don't know how much mg the pills are but I am pretty sure you take them every day. I REALLY want to get CUT and pretty much just big and ripped but I really dont want to become bulky if you know what i mean. All help is welcome along with expected sideaffects and possible workout routines. Anything really just post away.

Oh and also i dunno if this will change anything but i will be taking liver protectors as well and im pretty skinny already and prob around 12-15% bofy fat. Also I wanna get as ripped as hell 6pack too so ab work is welcome lol. And I know i dont know much about this stuff so please dont post something like You obviously dont know anything about what your doing because I already know that. Thanx for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Steroids are not, and should not, be treated like recreational drugs. If you want to put on serious, lasting muscle, there are plenty of things you can do first. Learn more training techniques. Try some supplements that are mentioned on this board. Then...educate yourself about steroids. Find out what they do. Learn the dosing. Don't just ask "how much" and pop a few pills. Bad move.
 
I wholeheartinly agree!

Becides diet plays a major role in this, if it's not spot on expect to loose everything,so starting over outweighs everything you are trying to do.

RADAR
 
At 19 you are far from ready for steroids. Forget it young buck. You got way to much natural test and you do not need them.

Learn how to train and eat right bro. For your own good.
 
YEP! Your natty Test levels are at their peak, you get that diet dialed in, get one gram of protein for every pound of body weight,train like a madman and i will bet you will looks better than your buddies running a half ass cycle, besides you will keep your gains!


RADAR
 
Arite well i appreciate all of your responses but i think i am still going to do it and i do not think i will loose it all because i DO work out and run EVERYDAY and have a very healthy diet. I have not had any liquid other than water and a protein shake or pre wrkout drink in like 6 months. Im one of those lucky people who actually enjoys a glass of water more than a cup of soda or fruit juice. I just have trouble putting on muscle maybe kuz of how long and lankey i am but it really is just very hard for me to get much improvement anywhere but my legs and my upper back a little. I wrk out pretty hard and my bench has only gone up about 15 lbs in what seems forever i just want to see results fast. And what is HCG??? Also i am only doing this one cycle and thats it anyways because i do care about my health and i do live pretty healthy i just wanna get some fn muscle gain already!!!!
 
Drop the cardio and increase calories if you expect gains!

RADAR
 
It never gets old
 
Ya i am gog to run up until my cycle so that i can get down to as little body fat as i can so that i dont get to bulky n get more cut n ripped
 
Drugs don't make you cut and ripped or help you lose bodyfat. Sorry to kill that misconception for you.

AAS will help you maintain what muscle mass you already have while you are leaning up due to a restricted calorie environment and fat burning stimulation (training and cardio)

Whatever muscle mass you have now, you will have slightly less after doing a real cutting phase that incorporates training, rest, diet and supplementations. That is just the way it is. Mother Nature at work and you simply can't overcome human physics and DNA programming no matter what you do.

You won't get leaner and more ripped at the same time your chest and arms get bigger.

Then again, your chest and arms won't get bigger at the same time your abs and serratus become more defined.

Build the muscle mass with a steady surplus supply of quality calories from protein, complex carbs and healthy fats. Or shred the bodyfat in a restrictive calorie environment while hoping for the least amount of muscle loss as possible.

But you can't do both at the same time.

So if you are truly happy with the muscle mass you CURRENTLY POSSESS (and I don't know of any 19 years old that are), then you can expect to be happy with the outcome of your cutting phase now.
Otherwise, you are just going to end up a smaller lean person. Unless you just abandon the entire approach out of frustration before the end.

Since you already made up your mind about doing this, some things to keep in mind.

First - find out WTF you really have. What strength it is. You could PM a mod the brand name or whatever, but right now you are clueless about what you are going to swallow.

Second - be aware that there is no drug out there, no training program, no secret supplement or special diet you can use that is going to provide instant expectations in only one month. It's simply impossible for anyone, no matter what they use.

The reason most AAS cycles run 10-14 weeks is because what most are not aware of is that prior to the cycle the trainee is first preparing his body for the cycle to come (or at least he should be or else he is wasting his time). This is priming the body to get ready to grow and accept the changes in it's make up by adapting to the new stimilus that it will encounter whether it be cutting or growing. Then post cycle is another 2-5 weeks where the trainee is prepping the body to accept the new changes it has made and adapt to a new level instead of reverting to it's old form. This is where PCT is needed to bring the body up to speed and help it recover so it can support the new changes on it's own without AAS support.

Right now what you are about to do is simply rob yourself of any solid permanent gains you could make on your own. Roids do not magically erase any training or dietary shortcomings you have. Which from your post, it is very apparent that you are just randomly plodding through your course of training and diet in hopes that it will eventually work. But if it isn't working now, it isn't going to work while on AAS.

I would spend more time getting a training program that is specifically targeted for your body type and bone structure along with a diet that is tailored for your activity level and metabolism.

At 6'1" and 165, you are quite the string bean. But I can gurantee you that with the right training program and diet you will make 2x the amount of gains without AAS that your friend will make while using them.

But to each their own. Live and learn I say. Some people make all the mistakes now and then when they reach 26-27 years of age simply can't figure out why they have not made better progress. Oh well.
 
Haha i know that you guy are all probably right, ok yes youre right but one of the kids doing the cycle has already put on 8 lbs in 2 weeks n gone up 30 lbs on his bench press. So I will prob get big for a little while and then loose it all and realize that i should have listened to you lol but sorry i AM 19 and i will be trying it out.
 
Haha i know that you guy are all probably right, ok yes youre right but one of the kids doing the cycle has already put on 8 lbs in 2 weeks n gone up 30 lbs on his bench press. So I will prob get big for a little while and then loose it all and realize that i should have listened to you lol but sorry i AM 19 and i will be trying it out.
keep in mind you can and probably will permanently damage your HTPA and ur natural levels. don't be brash and run head first into this. When i was 19 i wasn't even that hard headed, you sound like my friend who is 16 and wants to go into MMA and thinks he HAS to run Dbol and other AAS just to get bigger. i encourage you to do more research on what AAS can do to your body which is NOT fully matured yet. saying "i AM 19 and i will be trying it out" says, screams, that you are no where near ready to do AAS. u asked what hcg is. that is a bad sign. i doubt you've done any actual researching into AAS. i've been reading up about them for the past 2 years and i've only scratched the surface. hcg is Human Chorionic Gonadatropin it helps get your test levels back up when coming off a cycle. All i'm saying is i've had the experience and know alot of people who took AAS too young and have damaged their bodies beyond any kind of repair surgical or otherwise. They regret it.
 
At age 19 I was 6'2" and 150lbs I played soccer and football for quite a few years and worked my tail off trying to get big. I considered juicing one and was told me and old pro to forget it. He said stop running 8 miles a day change your diet and work out routine and with hard work and patience you will see results. Man I ate like a horse downed protein with a low dose of creatine like it was going out of style and after a few years i was up to 195lbs and 6% body fat. Of course now I'm close to 30 and laugh at the thought of ever being able to weigh under 225lbs. Patience my friend don't jack your body up at an early age you'll regret it later on.
 
That's awesome the kid comes for advise and then blatantly refuses to listen to the advise given to him. I love how somewhere in the last 10 yrs the gene pool for took a turn for the worse! I didn't cycle for the first time until 2 yrs ago and after a pro i knew said ya you should be ready. Why even ask if you are just going to ignore the answers.
 
Because ghostls i wasnt asking for advice on weather to do it or not but what to do and things i should know while on the cycle. Im glad no one really decided to help me w tht tho. And can a 4 week cycle really do that much harm??? I just wanna gain about 10 or 20 lbs and then go off of it right away i just want that boost over this plateau I am still going to work out very hard after the cycle as well.
 
Because ghostls i wasnt asking for advice on weather to do it or not but what to do and things i should know while on the cycle. Im glad no one really decided to help me w tht tho. And can a 4 week cycle really do that much harm??? I just wanna gain about 10 or 20 lbs and then go off of it right away i just want that boost over this plateau I am still going to work out very hard after the cycle as well.

The very second you introduce a chemical to your body there is no turning back. Could you run 4 weeks and be just fine? Maybe. Could you run 4 weeks and completely ruin yourself? Maybe.


Did you not read the link i posted kid?


Seriously. Please, please think about what you're doing!!!!
 
That's awesome the kid comes for advise and then blatantly refuses to listen to the advise given to him. I love how somewhere in the last 10 yrs the gene pool for took a turn for the worse! I didn't cycle for the first time until 2 yrs ago and after a pro i knew said ya you should be ready. Why even ask if you are just going to ignore the answers.


That's every new post these days. Ya can't even respond anymore...
 
Quote posted by ghostls That's awesome the kid comes for advise and then blatantly refuses to listen to the advise given to him. I love how somewhere in the last 10 yrs the gene pool for took a turn for the worse! I didn't cycle for the first time until 2 yrs ago and after a pro i knew said ya you should be ready. Why even ask if you are just going to ignore the answers. ------------------------------------------------------------ That's every new post these days. Ya can't even respond anymore...[/QUOTE said:
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I agree, I am tired of underage kids ignoring quality advice-This discussion is over.

RADAR
 
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