Experiences w/ Anavar + Tbol cycles?

[KOArtist]

Anavar + Tbol combo: Advice, Experiences, Suggestions?

I was thinking of doing something like this:

Week 1-4: 20mg var/30mg Tbol
Week 4-9: 50mg var

I'm 6'1" 220lbs, about 15% bf, and don't want to gain too much weight and outgrow my weightclass (I suck down to 200lbs for fights.) I just want the big strength boost, some muscle retention while I'm doing a lot of cardio/boxing training in the next few months, and then if I'm lucky enough to gain a few pounds of muscle, so be it, since I'll surely drop a few pounds of fat too.

Does Tbol have any "make you mean" type androgenic effects?

Would the addition of Tbol require any additional ancillaries for gyno/bloat/etc?

Does it make you lethargic and/or give those painful pumps/cramps like good ol' Dbol does (things i just can't have while training for boxing)?


Anyone here ran a similar cycle? Opinions/Advice/Suggestions?

Thanks a lot, and much green K to all those that can help me out

 

[mookie]

I have run both and have been boxing for 11 years now stick with var. Var is the best for boxing tbol you gain to much weight I use it to kickstart my test cycle. Run the var and do some halo a couple of weeks before the fight.

 

[Zuperman]

I have run both and have been boxing for 11 years now stick with var. Var is the best for boxing tbol you gain to much weight I use it to kickstart my test cycle. Run the var and do some halo a couple of weeks before the fight.

Var plus halo too toxic for liver bro....

Either Var only, or var plus test.

Tbol=Good wieght gain with no water bloat nor gyno, and he won't blow up.

 

[KOArtist]

thx for the input Mook n Zuper...and yeah, I know var is king for boxing, but I kinda wanna try Tbol (who knows, maybe I respond ridiculously good to it or something, ya know?)

plus, I kinda figure that since I can afford to gain maybe 5lbs of muscle, and I'll drop the tbol at week 5, by the time I'm done w/ the whole cycle I probably won't really have to worry about the tbol weight gain. And it will have been nice to have got the "kickstart" from it. I'm more concerned w/ how it might affect my training though (painful pumps/cramps, etc.)

Is Tbol at all "Dbol like" or "Tren like" when it comes to pumps/lethargy/etc?

 

[mookie]

thx for the input Mook n Zuper...and yeah, I know var is king for boxing, but I kinda wanna try Tbol (who knows, maybe I respond ridiculously good to it or something, ya know?)

plus, I kinda figure that since I can afford to gain maybe 5lbs of muscle, and I'll drop the tbol at week 5, by the time I'm done w/ the whole cycle I probably won't really have to worry about the tbol weight gain. And it will have been nice to have got the "kickstart" from it. I'm more concerned w/ how it might affect my training though (painful pumps/cramps, etc.)

Is Tbol at all "Dbol like" or "Tren like" when it comes to pumps/lethargy/etc?

Tbol doesn't give me the pumps like dbol I get the worst back pumps on dbol. The only side effect is some kidney pain for me. It gives me energy and makes me stronger. That being said I still would pick var over it.

 

[KOArtist]

So no god awful back pumps? Great to hear, I get those pretty damn bad too.

I know if it was var vs. tbol, I'd pick var hands down, but what about my tasty little combination I got planned? Sound like a pretty good idea? Would you set it up differently or anything?

 

[mookie]

So no god awful back pumps? Great to hear, I get those pretty damn bad too.

I know if it was var vs. tbol, I'd pick var hands down, but what about my tasty little combination I got planned? Sound like a pretty good idea? Would you set it up differently or anything?

Sounds good. Keep me updated let me know how you like it? Take alot of milk thistle.

 

[DieselGunz]

I did var and I am on Tbol, I would pick var over Tbol if I had to.

I am not having any sides from tbol besides some kidney pain

 

[KOArtist]

oh yeah, got all my liver scrubbers on the way right now. Thanks again, and I'll definitely post some results down the road. And if anybody has done something similar to my above planned cycle, please do chime in! peace

 

[KOArtist]

one last bumparelli.........

I'm kind of amazed here, I could have swore about 6 months back there were multiple threads on people running the Var + Tbol combo (Anavar Deluxe, lol)?

Where are u guys at w/ some experiences/feedback?

Would anybody run it differently than the way I have it planned?

Gracias