EQ or Deca with Winny for endurance?

[decagod]

Ok endurance guys (especially cyclists),
Here's my question... Eq or deca in moderate doses for endurance strength without huge weight gain? ie 200mg of deca + winny 50mg Eod or sub the deca for Eq?
which is going to give the best strength with min sides and weight gain?.
Is it better to use deca off season to build muscle and strength and then use more moderate AAS like anavar and winny in season for strength and recovery ( by the way we are talking for cycling here! )
Any advice is welcome

 

[fhg43]

Ok endurance guys (especially cyclists),
Here's my question... Eq or deca in moderate doses for endurance strength without huge weight gain? ie 200mg of deca + winny 50mg Eod or sub the deca for Eq?
which is going to give the best strength with min sides and weight gain?.
Is it better to use deca off season to build muscle and strength and then use more moderate AAS like anavar and winny in season for strength and recovery ( by the way we are talking for cycling here! )
Any advice is welcome

I would say the general rule of thumb for bike racers is avoid deca (sorry decagod). One, it is easy to test positive for it; and two, it will add too much weight. I'd do EQ and winny or EQ alone. I would avoid deca during the offseason-just too much weight gain.

When using AAS for performance enhancing reasons use these criteria for evaluating the AS to be used:

1) What is reliable clearance time?

2) How quickly can I recover from it and return to normal hormone function?

3) Will it increase RBC production?

4) Will the strength gains be significant?

5) Will the gains in strength last post cycle?

6) Will I have limited weight gain?

7) What are other beneficial sides?

I'd use the EQ in the offseason with winny. Then I'd probably use the EQ again during the season. Anavar and winny would work well too, but EQ's RBC boosting properties would make it an excellent choice. You really want to avoid gaining much weight at all if you can. I know this is very hard but it is important. In a sport where power-to-weight ratio is key you need to be light. And you can always be lighter than you think. Plus you have to think seriously about adding muscle and if that muscle (strength) is worth the added weight. You could add lots of weight and strength, but you may end up with a lower power to weight ratio. Even in a flat crit you need to worry about added weight since you will accelerate out of every corner. Some food for thought.


FHG

 

[decagod]

Excellent advise fhg,

Excuse my ignorance but what does RBC stand for?,

how do you deal with the hunger side of EQ , and would you suggest lighter doses as I want just the strength edge and not so much muscle mass,
(I am thinking 200mg per week and 50mg winny EOD)

I come from a track sprinting background so am naturally muscular with a hopefully in season weight of 180lb

PM me if you need anymore background , I sent you a PM a while back with my circumstances

Thanks DG

 

[fhg43]

RBC= red blood cell

EQ (actually all AS) prompt the body to increase red blood cell production just like....(drumroll)....EPO.

Arguably using an AS is better than using EPO, but EPO is still very safe to use (not abuse) even in light of new evidence. RBC production might not be a huge benefit for you, but more red blood cells means more oxygen to muscles which means more power!

FHG

 

[decagod]

Great now i know!
Back to AAS how about Primobolan Depot in season with winny or var?

 

[DOU12]

How much EQ?

 

[fhg43]

Endurance athletes:

Check out CuttingEdgeMuscle.com

This is a relatively new discussion board that has some great articles. Moderators Nandi12 and Monkeyballs have some great info you could benefit from.

Elite is a good board, but stop by Cutting Edge and check it out. It's worth it.

FHG

 

[lawashin]

Can the Eq help counter the effects of winny as far as joint soreness is concerned?

Thanks!