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Chest & Shoulders Together/ Not Smart!!!!!

The longer i wokout. it seems more clear to me there are only a few exercises needed. Squat, DL, Pedelay rows, Bench, standing overhead press, dips, i still hvnt been able to lose the bicurl and tri assistance work..

Shoulders/chest same day...absolutly. flat bench, standing overhead barbell press. IMO the side lateral raises and front raises are not to build size...They are more like physical therapy. really really light .....i dont do them any more..i think they are useless for building size. they do however allow us to look cool in the mirror as we are doing them....the chicks understand them...lol
 
Over the years I have seperated shoulders as far away from chest as possible. It has worked fairly well for me as I have decent size in my shoulders. I normally do chest on Monday and shoulders on Thursday or Friday. But..... I do feel like I could do shoulders the same day and it may be a better idea for me. You do not need heavy shoulder presses for big shoulders. I think you do need heavy inclines presses though. So for me I could go stright over to light side laterals after my incline presses, and finish with a rear delt fly machine. This is actually a pretty good idea and both shoulders and chest would be very fresh for the following week.

My shoulders are still fatigued today and chest day is tommorrow. I will skip shoulders next week and try this out.

I havent done heavy shoulder presses in a long time because of rotator cuff problems. Normally I will do a few sets of db shoulder presses with 50's for 25 reps each, then a few sets of light bent over side laterals and a few sets of rear flys.
 
I'm not recommending this as a way to train, but it was interesting.

One day I decided to try some flat BB bench presses straight after I'd fatigued my shoulders on a regular shoulder day. I was surprised how much stimulus I felt in the pecs compared to my chest day bench presses. It felt that all the stress was focused in the pecs.

I continue to do this from time to time. You won't be using a lot of weight (compared to what you use on bench press days) but it feels good.
 
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