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can u bech press 475 naturaly?

needsize said:
I know for a fact that the dude that alltraps mentioned, with the 575 bench and almost 900 squat is natural..one reason is because he gets tested constantly, which I know can be beat. but he and I were talking about it last year, and he wanted to know how much I thought he could add to his lifts if he juiced

I respect your opinion, but a lot of guys really play up the act of being natural. I personally dont believe a guy can bench that naturally, unless he weighs 500 lbs himself.
 
Paul Sr. from Orange County Choppers on Discovery Benched 405 on the show the other day....
 
anabolicmd said:


I respect your opinion, but a lot of guys really play up the act of being natural. I personally dont believe a guy can bench that naturally, unless he weighs 500 lbs himself.

I've been close friends with this guy for 10 years now, I know hes natural, in fact, i offered him free steroids if he would do a cycle and hes still thinking about it.
He is about 5'7" and weighs around 290lbs
 
While we're on the subject, does anyone know if Dr. Squat (Frederick Hatfield) is natural? When I only knew of him that he squated 1000lbs first, I assume he juiced. But then I read his book (Hardcore Bodybuilding: a Scientific Approach), and he seems very anti-steroid. Probably an act, but...
 
jh1 said:
Paul Sr. from Orange County Choppers on Discovery Benched 405 on the show the other day....

yep i saw that, and he dosent like some one wo can do that. but seems in my area ( orange county and southern cali ) many people take care of there shape. i see many people benching above 300 in my gym, plus i saw i girl squating 375 lb. dam strong girl
 
F117A Active Stealth said:
I've never ever personally seen anyone bench more than 315lbs EVER, and the guys I've seen doing it are HUGE!!!!

So I don't know, I guess the 3 gyms I've worked out at suck dog ass...

315 is by no means a big bench no matter how you look at it. where do you guys lift? curves for women?
 
jonny jacked said:


315 is by no means a big bench no matter how you look at it. where do you guys lift? curves for women?

hell, andre agassi benches 300lbs so as u say 315 is not a huge deal.
again, since agassi benches 300 i'd say a natural PL could bench 475 though i've never seen it done.
 
315 is by no means a big bench no matter how you look at it. where do you guys lift? curves for women?

I've worked out at Gold's, World Gym, Pitbull Gym, and Ultrafitness gyms.

I've seen maybe 5 guys bench 315lbs and they all had 19" arms and up.

Maybe these guys have steroid bloat? One guy I've seen do 365lbs and he had 20" arms and was RIPPED!! I'd say at least 4% BF, awesomest physique I've ever seen.
 
YuP its possible. I know a guy 1/2 from my house who is a world record holder and he swears he has never touched anything. HE gets tested. I though he was plum full of GH but i bel him now. BTW He benched 615 in the 220's! Sub masters. Messed up thing is he just looks like the average joe walking down the street. Well maybe not the ave joe but sure the fuck dont look like he can bench over 600.

I have also met some guys who swear they dont take anything and i know the fuckers are full of shit. lol.
 
I can do 405 for 4 reps

not even CLOSE to natural


475?? Not likely for me
 
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