Best Drink To Pack On Solid Mass

[jubei]

As usual you missed the point numb nuts. The point was that you always assume you are right and everyone else is an idiot. Funny how the trend of nelson being wrong continues. I mean, you don't even bother to check your information.

 

[jubei]

Hey did you just delete that post....hahahahaha you're such a fuck up buddy. It was as you said the perfect ending to this thread though. If it didn't matter at all why did you delete the post? LOL, hide the evidence.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Checked a couple of times and then said, "maybe it is an "i", so I deleted it, but it didnt go through the first time.
So this is what we're argueing about? Do you have a job? Why are you on this board all day long? I work at home in the days so I can jump over here in one second and keep up with this nonsense.

Everythime I think this thread gets dumber, I'm proven wrong. But as I said, it's just a game to me now. Someody should lock it or t'll continue forever, or I'll have the last word. Pick one. Ridiculous? You betcha. But the funny thing is, I see that hundreds of people click on this thread each day, so as far as I'm concerned, we're putting on a show. Give the people what they want! Plus, now it's a statement of sorts. It's made me realize that this is a colossal waste of time and my help, although appreciated by some, will just be resented by all the nobodies with big mouths.

 

[Silent Method]

Silent; Suddenly you're curious to hear my methods? Let's just say that it's doubtful you'll find tha ab exercise anywhere else. Considereing the fact that there are hundreds of ab articles every year, that's saying something. Do a search . Dozens of people on this board have gotten great results from the calve routine, but what does it matter? You already know everything and I know nothing. Remember

Ease up there big boy. First, I'm always curious to see different methods.


Regardless, that is not what I asked. You sated "i discovered alternate routes, MANY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PRAISED ON THIS VERY BOARD such as the ab exercise, and the calve routine and many other concepts."

I asked, I'm curious, what concepts related to your ab and calf routines are new discoveries?

 

[Silent Method]

It's obvious that this thread is about as meaningless as anything I can imagine. Some of you may have noticed I haven't posted anywhere else. This has given me a perspective of how pointless it all is. Now, I'm just looking for some closure. But as long as people want to take swipes at me, I'm going to keep coming back and showing them what morons they are. It's a game. Now that it's started I'll keep going until it ends. Maybe we'll break some sort of a record. "The longest flame war ever!" When it dies, I'll be done. So it's up to you-- the jerk-offs who insist on keeping this going. Let it go, and so will I. Keep it going, and I'll keep it going right back.
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Everythime I think this thread gets dumber, I'm proven wrong. But as I said, it's just a game to me now. Someody should lock it or t'll continue forever, or I'll have the last word. Pick one. Ridiculous? You betcha. But the funny thing is, I see that hundreds of people click on this thread each day, so as far as I'm concerned, we're putting on a show. Give the people what they want! Plus, now it's a statement of sorts. It's made me realize that this is a colossal waste of time and my help, although appreciated by some, will just be resented by all the nobodies with big mouths.

Obsess Much?

 

[sk*]

... but but but but they are bullying me mommy.

-sk

 

[Nelson Montana]

Obsess Much?

Nah... like I said, it's a game. I think it's hilareous that people can get so pissed over nothing, so this is my way of annoying them further.


What's a "new" discovery? Something that hasn't been done before, hence the term "new" and "discovery."


You see, someone like jubeI isn't a nobody because of his profession. (if he has one) I think any honest work is noble. To me, a "nobody" is someone who contributes nothing, yet is inclined to tear down what others have built. It's no differenct from the guy who spray paints graffitti or the kid who pulls out a set of keys and scratches a strangers car door. It accomplishes nothing. But they do it because they want to destroy. They hate the fact that others have accomplished more and in their pitiful sick minds they think that they are suprior if they destroy what they can't get. In some cases they are "ring leaders" of a group of bullies and these are the people that tend to be the most egomanial. (i.e.Charles Manson). In other cases, they're just lost souls yearing to be heard. It's a fascinating psychological study -- which is why I'm still here doing this. I admit, it's absurd. But..in for a penny, in for a pound.

 

[Spidey]

Nah... like I said, it's a game. I think it's hilareous that people can get so pissed over nothing, so this is my way of annoying them further.


What's a "new" discovery? Something that hasn't been done before, hence the term "new" and "discovery."


You see, someone like jubeI isn't a nobody because of his profession. (if he has one) I think any honest work is noble. To me, a "nobody" is someone who contributes nothing, yet is inclined to tear down what others have built. It's no differenct from the guy who spray paints graffitti or the kid who pulls out a set of keys and scratches a strangers car door. It accomplishes nothing. But they do it because they want to destroy. They hate the fact that others have accomplished more and in their pitiful sick minds they think that they are suprior if they destroy what they can't get. In some cases they are "ring leaders" of a group of bullies and these are the people that tend to be the most egomanial. (i.e.Charles Manson). In other cases, they're just lost souls yearing to be heard. It's a fascinating psychological study -- which is why I'm still here doing this. I admit, it's absurd. But..in for a penny, in for a pound.

LOL, did you just compare Jubei to Charles Manson???? ROFLMAO.

 

[Nelson Montana]

LOL, did you just compare Jubei to Charles Manson???? ROFLMAO.

Nah, jub isn't a ring leader. He's a minion.
The Charles Manson analogy was that there are people who are stupid, yet aggresive. And since they're slightly less stupid than the people willing to follow them, they become the "lead dog" -- as was the case with Manson. There are people here (who I would not compare to Manson ) who are stupid, yet aggressive and people who are even more stupid will follow them.

 

[R77M]

I just spent the last 45 minutes reading through this post. Aside from all the flaming there is alot of great information. I have read alot of Nelson's posts and find some of his theories very interesting. However, I really have to agree with Silent Method on this one. By no means am I flaming or attacking Nelson's credibility, but the following seems true:

Silent Method's statement was a post-workout drink high in carbs would increase the muscle growth.

Nelson's statement was it will not increase muscle growth any more than a regular meal anytime of the day.

In laymans (sp.) terms, according to Silent Method, high carbs increase insulin which, in turn, increases protien uptake in the muscles. At the same time catabolic effects are reduced. It would seem that post work-out reduction of catabolic effects alone would contribute to increased muscle growth, but the addition of protien uptake creates an environement in which inceased muscle growth is almost assured.

As to the time frame. Does it not make sense that your body is depleated of energy (calories) upon completion of a workout. And the sooner you provide rapid energy (calories) the better, so the body will consume the calories you provide and not your reserves, primarily muscle tissue. Thus the anti-catabolic state. And aren't the best calories for immediate use after exercise are simple carbs.

It is a very sound theory and makes alot of sense. Silent Method provided definitive information and concise thoughts as to his position. It would be very interesting to hear Nelson's argument in terms of the question posed. Why do you feel muscle growth will not be increased with a post-workout drink as opposed to a regular meal?

This is no flame. It is a very interesting subject which, with civil debate would no doubt be invaluable to all of us. I mean a post-workout drink that actually contributes to muscle growth. Nelson, if you have an argument or a position that contradicts this, by all means present your case and lets debate.