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Wow, I opened this thread to read about drinks, little did I know what I had gotten myself into. Shouldn't most of this thread be in the chat section? Anyway, I just wanted to say that I have gained knowledge from both Nelson and Fonz. They seem to be two extremes, so having them both here kind of creates a balance in the universe. We have seen them go at it numerous times on the board, and they will continue to go at it. It doesn't bother me, I like the variety they offer, but when it comes to banning, if you are going to ban one, then you should ban the other as well. I know that testoterone levels are high here, heh heh heh, but we really need to just chill out. If Fonz and Nelson can't play well together, then they need to mature enough to realize it. You both need a time out. But to ban either one would be a loss to EF.
 
Nelson Montana said:



I wasn't going to resond this this thread (and I won't) but I skimmed through ti and saw this "insinuation" which I also was going to ignore. But I know how these things gain momentum.

I'm sure this is Citrusides idea of being playful, but I think it's pretty low and very unprofessional to suggest that I would go on this board using an alias. Of course he's trying to exploit the fact that I made ONE POST over at another board as a lark, knowing that everyone knew who it was. And for that, soe petty people are trying to suggest that's something I do all the time.

If he has any evidence of this being me, he should say so and have me banned. Period. If not, he shouldn't make accusations. (This guy is a lawyer? He should know better).

I understand this is all in an effort to discredit me and defend his pal Fonz (who has on sereval occasions gone on multiple boards using aliases and been busted). I also understand that some people resent the fact that members are started to realize that my methods work and these mods are embarassed by that since they want to be the ones thought of as the "experts". So they tell lies about me.

In regard to the posters comments on Fonz, I think anyone with eyes can see that. Fonz and I are about the same size in our pics. I'm a little bigger and he's a little more cut -- understandably sice he's half my age. The only difference is, Fonz's pics were taken after a 6 month cycle of fina and mine were taken before I ever touched a steroid.

But what's the difference? My pics are there not to impress anyone with how big I am, but to show how much progress I made. That's all that matters.

Anyway, I offer this challange. Any mod may investigate any member who you think may be me. Check the credit card number. Do whatever you need to do to prove your point. But until you do, shut the fuck up and don't be an asshole.

Don't worry Nelson, it isn't a banable offense to have multiple handles... I think you'll be ok.

When it comes to being an expert on this stuff... I usually step back and let Huck, Fonz, Macro and others post up stuff... I've learned a great deal, through experience and readings... but these guys are the ones that taught me.

Nelson... no one here is trying to discredit you. They are all laughing at you.

C-ditty
 
Looking back, I don't see a point to this entire thread.

Muscle Growth. If you aren't growing, eat more. Workout with more intensity. Allow recovery and rest.

Boom. Problem solved.

C-ditty
 
Citruscide said:


Don't worry Nelson, it isn't a banable offense to have multiple handles... I think you'll be ok.

When it comes to being an expert on this stuff... I usually step back and let Huck, Fonz, Macro and others post up stuff... I've learned a great deal, through experience and readings... but these guys are the ones that taught me.

Nelson... no one here is trying to discredit you. They are all laughing at you.

C-ditty

You're a liar. You know what you're saying isn't true , because if it were you could easily prove it by checking the names on the accounts. You're making a flagrantly falsified accusation with no evidence. And you're a lawyer? That's despicable.

It's obvious that many people see my side of the story . If others laugh, fine. Fools laugh all the time at what they can't comprehend.
 
Nelson Montana said:


You're a liar. You know what you're saying isn't true , because if it were you could easily prove it by checking the names on the accounts. You're making a flagrantly falsified accusation with no evidence. And you're a lawyer? That's despicable.

It's obvious that many people see my side of the story . If others laugh, fine. Fools laugh all the time at what they can't comprehend.

Yeah. Names on accounts... that an IP tracing... because I can tell where each poster is originating from... it's kind of funny when all the people who support you use AOL...

C-ditty
 
I always thought that was him on the cover of his book—or is that a fitness model?

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Citruscide said:


Yeah. Names on accounts... that an IP tracing... because I can tell where each poster is originating from... it's kind of funny when all the people who support you use AOL...

C-ditty

You must not be a very good lawyer. Why would I use a multitude of people to support me? What would I gain? A litany of make believe supporters? What for? It makes no sense. And it's an idiotic accusation. I work as a writer, an actor, a musician, a producer and an arranger. I have a family. I live in New York City. Do you actually think have nothing better to do than to make up alias's and support myself?

Hey, Citrue. You did an interview with Rick Collins, right? Check out the acknowledgments on page ii of LEGAL MUSCLE. You may then want to appologize to me and to the members for the things you've said.

It's funny how none of my detractors read my books -- except Citruside, who is obviously a liar.


Body: Dont be surprised if someone posts one of my "before" pictures and claims it's me now. BTW: All the phots on my website are drug free except for the competition shot in the corner of the first page. I did a cycle of 200 mgs of deca a week and 20 mgs of d-bol for 3 weeks prior to the show. I was 42.

I think THEGAME makes a good point. I, unlike most people selling supplements, actually recommened the ingredients in the stuff I put together long before I was even asked to put together a formula. Who else can say that?

The supps I designed don't work because I sell them. I sell them because they work. And that has been proven.
 
Nelson Montana said:


You must not be a very good lawyer. Why would I use a multitude of people to support me? What would I gain? A litany of make believe supporters? What for? It makes no sense. And it's an idiotic accusation. I work as a writer, an actor, a musician, a producer and an arranger. I have a family. I live in New York City. Do you actually think have nothing better to do than to make up alias's and support myself?

Hey, Citrue. You did an interview with Rick Collins, right? Check out the acknowledgments on page ii of LEGAL MUSCLE. You may then want to apologize to me and to the members for the things you've said.

It's funny how none of my detractors read my books -- except Citruside, who is obviously a liar.


Nelson, I don't think I have ever said your book was bogus. I also don't think I've ever asked you anything more than to back up your statements with anything else but more statements ... Give me something to work with.. give the EF members something to work with.

You're right, I'm an attorney. A hot blooded attorney who questions many things... not only does it help clients that I have helped in the past, but it helps me see through the illusionary fog of knowledge that some people put up ... and see through it to what is really there...

I have no idea what you do with your time Nelson. I'm happy for your family and the success you are claiming. I really do wish nothing but the best for you.

But you have to realize something... This is EliteFitness.Com -- the BEST fitness site on the Internet. If you are going to make some wild claims... please, back them up with something. It's all anyone is really asking... we don't need detailed studies from various scientific institutions... but perhaps things you have learned in your own life... experiences you may have drawn upon... enlighten us... and then discuss it... in a rationale manner. People will disagree with you... they aren't necessarily fools... but perhaps people who have had their own experiences to the contrary... and that is where the arguments with facts and studies to bolster one side of the story come into play.

If I walked into court and told the judge this is the way it should be without bringing any case law to the plate with me... I'd not only get laughed out of the courtroom, but I'd most likely be in violations of various ethical duties that are attributed to all attorneys.... Now, I don't expect to hold you to my level of moral integrity... but perhaps a little bit of backing behind your claims would be somewhat refreshing.

C-ditty
 
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