advice -i'm a fresh newbie

[zrk235]

Hi,

I took 2 shots of Sustanon 250 yesterday (500 mg, that is).. and my room-mates found out since they saw needles and syringes in the bin, and gave me a huge pep talk, and one of them tossed away all my Sus vials in the trash, and dumped it in the dumpster outside. He kept the Nolvadex I had in hand just in case something happens.

After whatever they told me, I've pretty much changed my mind entirely about taking steroids.. and I want to be 100% natural with vitamins and proteins from now on..

So pretty much, what we have here, is someone who took 500 mg of Sustanon 250, and then quit altogether.. Do I stand at a position to incur any side-effects whatsoever as of this point of time?

Basically, could someone here could tell me what could happen to me by having taken 500 mg of Sustanon 250 yesterday, and abruptly quitting.. is there any chance of me losing my hair, or anything whatsoever happening?

Sincerely,
~Lost

 

[Greek Freak]

Nothing should happen from that ammount that you took. I dont see why you would throw away your shit and not at least sell it or give it to a friend. Good luck with your decision to stay natural.

 

[Zyglamail]

Judging by the question your asking it was a good idea to put AAS use off. The esters in the product will give a tapering affect abd you shouldnt have any problems. On a side note, I would have a talk with your roommate, I dont like people throwing away my property, weather they like me having it or not, its still mine and even if they talked me out of doing something I would be extremely upset with their disregard for my belongings.

 

[guards]

Oh man, if someone through out gear, any gear, I would be very dissapointed.

 

[madmatt]

I think staying natural is great. I really don't think you had a good understanding of you and AAS use though. I believe if you had put in your research and really thought for yourself why you wanted to use. You would have not been as easy to persuade. I have found that 99.9% of people that put down steroid use, do not know the first thing about them. Even if I did choose to stop my use. I would kick my buddies asses for tossing my shit. How much money did you waste on this gear? What could you have bought or paid off with that money? I would say that your friends owe you some money. Thats's bullshit!

 

[Quadsweep]

Oh man, if someone through out gear, any gear, I would be very dissapointed.

I would be strait up Pissed! But I agree with Zyg, You do not know enough to be messing with gear anyway at this point. And it was out of line for your roomates to do what they did. But on the lighter side you will be fine.

Quad

 

[bbkingpin]

If you are worried about losing your hair, then get some topical anti-androgen like Xandrox. One 32 day supply will cost you $34.95. www.minoxidil.com

 

[hhajdo]

It will shut down your natural test production for several weeks..

 

[Zyglamail]

the degree of suppression is not only based on amount of exo AAS but also duration your exposed to it. I would venture a guess that a single application of sust will have minimal impact.

 

[hhajdo]

the degree of suppression is not only based on amount of exo AAS but also duration your exposed to it. I would venture a guess that a single application of sust will have minimal impact.

According to this article by Brock Strasser, even a single 100 mg injection of Deca will shut you down for three weeks...

HPTA Suppression Is Imminent

Anyone who’s used anabolic steroids for any length of time will easily observe that when they discontinue using, they invariably "crash." That is to say, their body is producing next to zero endogenous androgens. This can lead to significant loss of muscle gain, loss of strength gains, lethargy, depression and a whole host of other disorders. Of course, drugs like HCG, HMG, clomiphene and similar gonadotrophics can help to ameliorate such symptoms, but these aren’t 100% cure-alls. The success or failure of such secondary drug use varies considerably between individuals.

In a quest to minimize HPTA insult, my friend and Biotest developmental team partner, Bill Roberts, came up with an innovative speculation: If you limit your use of anabolic steroids to short-acting compounds and don’t exceed two weeks of continual usage without a four week period of no usage, you might not depress endogenous androgen levels too much, if at all. This is the now famous "two on/four off" protocol.

I have the utmost respect for Bill and he possesses more knowledge about drugs than I ever will, but on this one topic, I don’t agree with him. The study I just reviewed utilized ten healthy male volunteers who were randomized to receive either the phenylpropionate or decanoate ester of nandrolone via intramuscular, oily depo injection. A single injection of only 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate caused almost complete suppression of endogenous Testosterone by day three and lasted until around day eight.

Endogenous levels of Testosterone didn’t return to baseline levels for almost fifteen days, while the same type of injection with nandrolone decanoate caused almost complete inhibition of endogenous by day four. Endogenous levels of Testosterone didn’t return to baseline levels for greater than twenty days! All this from a single, 100-mg injection of nandrolone!

This tells me that no matter what you do, whether it’s a short lasting ester or a long lasting ester, you’ll end up totally shutting down your body’s ability to make androgens for at least two to three weeks. Since nobody (well, at least nobody male) uses only 100 mg of nandrolone per week, it’s reasonable to conclude that the suppression caused by 500mg of an esterified anabolic per week (an average dose) would be much greater than two to three weeks. This study didn’t deal with fast acting orals like stanozolol and oxandrolone, but there’s no reason to think that these won’t cause HPTA insult as well.

So what does this mean? To me, it means that HPTA insult is inevitable and should be planned for accordingly in your cycle. That is to say, you should plan on crashing for a few weeks post-cycle no matter what. Because of this, you’re going to want to extend and "beef up" your cycle so that you overshoot your final goal.

Remember, you’re going to crash and lose some of your gains. So if you want to gain "X" pounds of muscle, shoot for "X+Y" pounds of muscle and accept that within two to six weeks after the cycle, you’ll end up losing most of the "Y" portion.

Reference

The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997.