1982...First Case Of Gyno

[mattdan]

Anyone remember the old primotestin amps or the old sten amps??? Ahhh the good old days...

Sten is my favorite test of all times. Do they still make it? I think it may have been the dhea they added to it - but for whatever reason the shit just rocked even tho it was low dosed by todays standards.

And we all know that it is impossible that they did d bol only cycles back then. As we've learned from the true internet vets on this board you lose ALL of your gains on oral only cycles because it was ALL water, then you die a horrible death from stupidity for doing an oral only cycle.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I find it interesting that many of the classic bodybuilders that used Dianabol - methandrostenolone - exclusively without reported gynecomastia (especially if your claim of 1982 is correct). Yet when mixed with other compounds gynecomastia is more predominant.

I have read over and over again from people on this board and others that one reason to stay away from Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only is gynecomastia....hmmmm.

Nelson do you have any insight on this?

It's all dose dependant. Dball does aromatize quite a bit and once you add the prog and suppression of decc, you're fucked. It should also be taken with a more anabolic comound, NOT decca or test. 25 mgs of dball is VERY powerful but you got these 170 pound guys who can't accept not being as big as Jay Cutler tomorrow so they treat the stuff like it's candy.

 

[chazk]

It's all dose dependant. Dball does aromatize quite a bit and once you add the prog and suppression of decc, you're fucked. It should also be taken with a more anabolic comound, NOT decca or test. 25 mgs of dball is VERY powerful but you got these 170 pound guys who can't accept not being as big as Jay Cutler tomorrow so they treat the stuff like it's candy.

Yes nelson you hit the nail right on the head
jaycutler has been bodybuilding for almost 20 years and competed in the junior national back in 1990.
Its safe to say that jay doing to cycles per year in his competative years from 90-2007 means he has close to 40 steroid cycles under his belt
and even if he did just one cycle a year he would have done 20 cycles.

now adays guys that never touch a weight just want to pound as much steroids as they can in their asses rather then bust their asses off in the gym.
they have a big misconception that steroids are some magical things that makes muscle just grow.

so not looking at the big picture that most guys with builds have been lifting for many years .they want it now and will take anything to get it.
makes for alot of gyno and acne covered newbies at the gym.

 

[justinjones1963]

Yes nelson you hit the nail right on the head
jaycutler has been bodybuilding for almost 20 years and competed in the junior national back in 1990.
Its safe to say that jay doing to cycles per year in his competative years from 90-2007 means he has close to 40 steroid cycles under his belt
and even if he did just one cycle a year he would have done 20 cycles.

now adays guys that never touch a weight just want to pound as much steroids as they can in their asses rather then bust their asses off in the gym.
they have a big misconception that steroids are some magical things that makes muscle just grow.

so not looking at the big picture that most guys with builds have been lifting for many years .they want it now and will take anything to get it.
makes for alot of gynecomastia and acne covered newbies at the gym.

Excellent point.

 

[ALIN]

I'd be curious if anyone knows of an earlier example.

It looks like Franco got carried away with the dball this year. Oops. And this was right around the time Decca was getting popular. Bad combo.

Incidentally, the guy in the bottom right is Roy Callender. One of the most overlooked and underrated bodybuilders of all time. Awesome.


http://digilander.libero.it/gruppociak/fc88.jpg

ive never seen that pic of FRANCO

 

[jhondo]

25 mgs of dball is VERY powerful but you got these 170 pound guys who can't accept not being as big as Jay Cutler tomorrow so they treat the stuff like it's candy.

I have no idea as to the truth of this but I read once where Larry Scott and a few other top bodybuilders of the day had a meeting to decide if taking two Dianabols a day instead of one was safe. Remember that this was in the 60's and common steroid use among athletes was a fairly new concept.

I think Bill March and Bob Bednarski and those guys were among the first US weightlifters to use Dianabol and I doubt their dosage was very high either and certainly they had no clue about anti estrogens or anything of that nature.